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[00:12:32] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 05master 87eabd7 06linuxcnc 04directory.map This is useless. * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=87eabd7
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[00:49:45] <skunkworks_> micges: I had emailed him your screenshot
[00:49:55] <skunkworks_> cradek: I have not played with it yet
[00:51:07] <skunkworks_> andypugh: you had a script to convert a config to ja4?
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[01:09:15] <andypugh> skunkworks_: Yes, built in to JA4 now :-)
[01:09:51] <andypugh> Basically JA4 should spot that the config is not JA4 and offer to mix it up.
[01:10:21] <andypugh> (best-guess, no guarantees)
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[01:11:50] <skunkworks_> oh - neat
[01:11:57] <skunkworks_> lets see..
[01:13:21] <skunkworks_> andypugh: what should it do? I just tried to run my config and it just exited with a core_sim.hal:33: Pin 'axis.0.motor-pos-cmd' does not exist
[01:13:27] <skunkworks_> andypugh: what should it do? I just tried to run my config and it just exited with a core_sim.hal:33: Pin 'axis.0.motor-pos-cmd' does not exist
[01:13:30] <skunkworks_> what?
[01:13:58] <skunkworks_> from the config picker..
[01:15:32] <andypugh> It’s a one-way conversion. That pin becomes joint.0…
[01:16:06] <andypugh> What was the sequence of events?
[01:16:41] <andypugh> Either conversion was incomplete, or never happened, or something else.
[01:17:12] <skunkworks_> skunkworks@skunkworks-Studio-XPS-1645:~/linuxcnc-ja4-cba4$ linuxcnc
[01:17:13] <skunkworks_> LINUXCNC - 2.7.0~pre0-ja
[01:17:15] <skunkworks_> Machine configuration directory is '/home/skunkworks/linuxcnc/configs/circblend/axis'
[01:17:16] <skunkworks_> Machine configuration file is 'axis.ini'
[01:17:18] <skunkworks_> Starting LinuxCNC...
[01:17:19] <skunkworks_> core_sim.hal:33: Pin 'axis.0.motor-pos-cmd' does not exist
[01:17:21] <skunkworks_> Shutting down and cleaning up LinuxCNC...
[01:17:22] <skunkworks_> LinuxCNC terminated with an error. You can find more information in the log:
[01:17:24] <skunkworks_> /home/skunkworks/linuxcnc_debug.txt
[01:17:25] <skunkworks_> and
[01:17:27] <skunkworks_> /home/skunkworks/linuxcnc_print.txt
[01:17:28] <skunkworks_> as well as in the output of the shell command 'dmesg' and in the terminal
[01:17:30] <skunkworks_> skunkworks@skunkworks-Studio-XPS-1645:~/linuxcnc-ja4-cba4
[01:17:31] <skunkworks_> oops - meant to pastebin..
[01:17:43] <andypugh> Hmm
[01:17:53] <andypugh> Well, there _was_ a script.
[01:18:06] <skunkworks_> This is cradeks merging of arcblending and ja4...
[01:18:09] <skunkworks_> as of today
[01:18:09] <andypugh> I have no idea if it is still there
[01:19:59] <andypugh> I have given up trying to keep track of what is accepted, what is rejected, what machinekit it doing, what machinekit even is. I have basically stopped developing and I am now playing with old motorbikes.
[01:21:37] <skunkworks_> heh
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[01:26:19] <kwallace2> andypugh, is this a motorcycle part? https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1t_b5NE1OLM/USpdwDyK9EI/AAAAAAAABrc/WrK1bA_G6T4/w1036-h777-no/856952_607775669239808_709490901_o.jpg
[01:27:10] <andypugh> No, that’s part of a Bull-nose Morris engine
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[01:29:53] <kwallace2> What's the plan for the Bull-nose?
[01:30:09] <andypugh> It’s not mine
[01:30:47] <andypugh> A friend inherited one from (unrelated) head man of the Morris club
[01:32:19] <kwallace2> Getting an old engine is like getting a puppy.
[01:33:02] <andypugh> That’s a spare. He inherited a car that pretty much made him the main man in the club :-)
[01:33:37] <andypugh> It wasn’t so much a car as a handover.
[01:39:25] <kwallace2> andypugh, I noticed you machined some laminations for a motor. What material did you use?
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[01:59:42] <andypugh> I managed to scrounge some proper transformer steel from a local manufacturer. I think they were amused, and gave me it for free. They make big transformers, and make big offcuts.
[02:01:54] <skunkworks_> andypugh: do you have the script somewhere? I don't see anything that looks like it in /scripts
[02:02:08] <skunkworks_> by chance
[02:12:09] <andypugh> I can’t find it
[02:12:33] <andypugh> Maybe I dreamed the whole thing
[02:12:48] <skunkworks_> I remember you working on it..
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[02:14:17] <andypugh> here it is: http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commit;h=7c759b8977d806ad14044d49ffe82e448bc626e1
[02:17:22] <andypugh> It is in joints_axes4 but not in ja4-onto-cba4. Which I can’t explain.
[02:20:16] <andypugh> Nor is the script automatically callled by the “linuxcnc” script in ja4-onto-cba4, but it is in the joints_axes4 branch
[02:20:25] <andypugh> Which one are you using>
[02:21:56] <skunkworks_> I am using the ja4-onto-cba4... Have to ask cradek
[02:22:14] <skunkworks_> skunkworks@skunkworks-Studio-XPS-1645:~/linuxcnc-ja4-cba4/scripts$ ./update_ini ~/linuxcnc/configs/circblend/axis/axis.iniTraceback (most recent call last): File "./update_ini", line 140, in <module> if not kins: kins = "trivkins"NameError: name 'kins' is not definedskunkworks@skunkworks-Studio-XPS-1645:~/linuxcnc-ja4-cba4/scripts$
[02:22:20] <skunkworks_> skunkworks@skunkworks-Studio-XPS-1645:~/linuxcnc-ja4-cba4/scripts$ ./update_ini ~/linuxcnc/configs/circblend/axis/axis.ini
[02:22:22] <skunkworks_> Traceback (most recent call last):
[02:22:23] <skunkworks_> File "./update_ini", line 140, in <module>
[02:22:25] <skunkworks_> if not kins: kins = "trivkins"
[02:22:26] <skunkworks_> NameError: name 'kins' is not defined
[02:22:28] <skunkworks_> skunkworks@skunkworks-Studio-XPS-1645:~/linuxcnc-ja4-cba4/scripts$
[02:22:32] <andypugh> cradek: Why doesn’t ja4-onto-cba4 have my conversion script?
[02:26:18] <andypugh> Anyway, time to sleep.
[02:26:37] <skunkworks_> night..
[02:26:47] <andypugh> but this whole project jusy doesn’t feel like fun any more
[02:27:18] <skunkworks_> well - that sucks.
[02:27:27] <skunkworks_> what would help?
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[04:40:16] <cradek> oops, I missed the top five commits on joints_axes4 somehow
[04:40:29] <cradek> I guess the branch I rebased was out of date
[04:40:47] <cradek> fortunately it's the one on top!
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[04:48:30] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05ja4-onto-cba4 a30d344 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/halui.cc Fix pin_new already-initialized errors * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=a30d344
[04:48:30] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Andy Pugh 05ja4-onto-cba4 31b7573 06linuxcnc 03scripts/update_ini Add a script to convert configurations to the joints_axes format. * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=31b7573
[04:48:30] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05ja4-onto-cba4 54bf0c0 06linuxcnc 10configs/sim/axis/vismach/puma/puma560.ini 10configs/sim/axis/vismach/puma/puma560_sim_6.hal puma560: make the config load under ja * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=54bf0c0
[04:48:33] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Andy Pugh 05ja4-onto-cba4 0e4b353 06linuxcnc 10scripts/update_ini Add dialog and force options to the update_ini script to make it more suited * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=0e4b353
[04:48:37] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03andypugh 05ja4-onto-cba4 5df4cf3 06linuxcnc 10scripts/linuxcnc.in 10scripts/update_ini Arrange for the linuxcnc launch script to prompt to auto-convert non JA configs * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=5df4cf3
[04:49:01] <cradek> sorry andy, fixed
[04:49:36] <cradek> looks like the runtests will need a bit of a massage so they don't try to pop up the dialog
[04:49:51] <cradek> but that's for tomorrow.
[04:49:53] <cradek> goodnight
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[14:10:06] <skunkworks_> cradek: with the new script from andy - the config converted and worked! Yay thanks
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[14:34:29] <skunkworks_> cradek: http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/ja4-cba4/Screenshot%20from%202014-05-24%2009:32:04.png
[14:35:38] <cradek> awesome. does the tp work right?
[14:36:42] <skunkworks_> hmm - no.. z axis has a velocity limit of 8.3333
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[14:37:17] <cradek> hmm
[14:37:38] <cradek> I'm leaving for a few hours but will help troubleshoot later
[14:38:17] <cradek> is the 8.333 in the axis or joint ini section?
[14:39:01] <cradek> you might want it in both?? not sure how it works, maybe andy would know better
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[15:08:28] <skunkworks_> logger[psha]:
[15:10:58] <skunkworks_> I said and it was lost
[15:11:04] <skunkworks_> yes - it seems to be the homing velocity isn't constrained by the joint limits...
[15:11:07] <skunkworks_> HOME_SEARCH_VEL = 8.330HOME_LATCH_VEL = 8.330
[15:11:14] <skunkworks_> fixed it.. That probably needs to be looked at
[15:11:16] <skunkworks_> maybe
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[16:06:22] <skunkworks_> cradek: looks good http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/ja4-cba4/Screenshot%20from%202014-05-24%2011:05:30.png
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[17:07:32] <skunkworks_> feature by design? :)
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[17:54:24] <cradek> skunkworks_: that is really terrific
[17:57:11] <skunkworks_> would there be a situation that you would want to home faster than the joint allows?
[17:57:17] <cradek> doubt it
[17:57:40] <cradek> just a bug I bet
[17:58:08] <cradek> if we want to get serious about merging this maybe we should have a bug tracker category
[17:58:28] <cradek> hm, or maybe just merge it as-is and use the regular categories
[17:58:44] <cradek> I'm working on fixing the runtests now
[17:58:46] <skunkworks_> yes yes - oh god yes!! :)
[17:58:49] <cradek> it looks easy
[17:59:25] <skunkworks_> there will be some freaking out.. but other than that...
[18:00:25] <cradek> skunkworks_: would you verify that joint vel/acc limits work for continuous and incremental jogs in joint mode, and axis vel/acc limits work for continuous and incremental jogs in world mode
[18:01:16] <skunkworks_> let me see
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[18:15:29] <skunkworks_> cradek: 9axis sim all seems correct in world mode. (no kins so I will have to make a config that works with something like rdelta)
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[18:15:46] <skunkworks_> with the velocity/acc readouts
[18:16:06] <cradek> rdelta is the only nontrivial one I've personally run
[18:17:23] <skunkworks_> I probably won't happen today..
[18:18:02] <cradek> no problem, thanks for helping
[18:18:12] <cradek> we already have a halui-jogging runtest - maybe that could automate the test
[18:18:20] <cradek> I'm not sure if halui can switch between joint and world mode
[18:18:59] <skunkworks_> this looks good though
[18:19:01] <skunkworks_> http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/ja4-cba4/Screenshot%20from%202014-05-24%2013:17:36.png
[18:19:24] <skunkworks_> the only issue so far with andys script is it doesn't seem to convert locking pins.
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[18:19:34] <cradek> this is jogging with trivkins?
[18:19:39] <skunkworks_> right
[18:20:04] <skunkworks_> so joints = axis I assume
[18:20:05] <cradek> did you set max vel/acc in both the joints and axes sections?
[18:20:12] <skunkworks_> yes
[18:20:15] <cradek> I wonder which it uses...
[18:20:23] <skunkworks_> (well - andys script seems to do that)
[18:20:38] <skunkworks_> good question
[18:20:58] <cradek> I guess that feels right for a trivkins machine
[18:21:27] <cradek> we could be smarter about reading the ini, if trivkins, and not require duplicate settings
[18:22:03] <skunkworks_> trivkins uses joint....
[18:22:27] <skunkworks_> (I changed the [axis_x] section and it used the joint limits
[18:22:48] <cradek> for jogging?
[18:23:13] <cradek> I guess that's expected because trivkins jogs in free mode
[18:26:13] <skunkworks_> hmm - then does it use axis for running gcode?
[18:27:20] <skunkworks_> it does. interesting
[18:28:17] <skunkworks_> so - joints limits for jogging - axis limits for gcode.
[18:28:21] <skunkworks_> for trivkins
[18:28:41] <cradek> that is totally correct, but might not be what people expect
[18:28:46] <skunkworks_> right
[18:28:58] <skunkworks_> but for most people - joint=axis... \
[18:29:11] <cradek> we could easily change it to load one set of values into both places, if trivkins
[18:29:12] <skunkworks_> * a lot of people
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[18:30:55] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 05ja4-onto-cba4 36a1269 06linuxcnc 10(10 files in 10 dirs) These were manually converted; avoid the autoconvert which requires $DISPLAY * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=36a1269
[18:31:14] <cradek> that oughta fix the runtests
[18:35:38] <skunkworks_> it doesn't seem that much more confusing.. :)
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[18:53:30] <cradek> yay, runtests are passing
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[19:27:47] <agwn> anyone successfully using hm2 doing read operations in two different threads (high speed and low)?
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[19:28:45] <agwn> i am running a 2kHz servo thread that is doing read/write and a 25hz thread that should be doing uart i/o
[19:29:55] <agwn> if i addf the device *.read and the *.uart.0.recieve both i get stack smashing
[19:30:12] <cradek> what do you see?
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[19:33:21] <agwn> either machine grinds to a halt and ui is non responsive or "stack smashing detected" followed by backtrace and mem dump
[19:34:13] <cradek> pastebin your output?
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[19:45:24] <agwn> http://pastebin.com/krRnu2nV
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[19:47:36] <cradek> what platform, kernel, and source is this?
[19:49:34] <seb_kuzminsky> agwn: calling the same function from multiple threads is an unusual use case, and any functions used that way need to be written specially, carefully to support it
[19:49:43] <seb_kuzminsky> hm2 functions are not written that way
[19:50:14] <seb_kuzminsky> since you're using a 2 kHz servo thread i assume you're using one of the pci anyio boards, is that right?
[19:50:26] <agwn> i guessed that. looked into both components and saw calls to llio->read.
[19:50:30] <agwn> ethernet anyio
[19:50:43] <seb_kuzminsky> if so, there's a couple of extra functions available, read_gpio and write_gpio
[19:51:14] <seb_kuzminsky> if all you need is twiddling gpio bits, those may work for you (they can be run in a separate thread from the regular .read and .write functions)
[19:51:17] <agwn> looking at the calls nothing to make them reentrant.
[19:51:33] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah, they're not reentrant
[19:52:26] <agwn> the slow component is a derivative of mesa_uart. it is not reading the values if not added to a thread.
[19:52:34] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm not familiar with the ethernet hm2 stuff
[19:54:15] <seb_kuzminsky> the llio driver for the ethernet anyio board (hm2_eth?) should set the llio.threadsafe flag True or False when it calls hm2_register
[19:54:35] <cradek> can't you just run everything in the fast thread, but have your uart component do nothing for 79/80ths of its invocations?
[19:55:09] <cradek> (2000/25)
[19:55:45] <agwn> have been looking at that. am going through different configs and just isolated the problem to enabling both read operations
[19:56:27] <agwn> started in single thread. then split when having problems. though it might be overloading the system with "slow" uart operations in the fast thread
[19:57:09] <agwn> now that i have a better handle on what is happening will try all in fast thread again.
[19:57:51] <seb_kuzminsky> if the llio driver sets llio.threadsafe to True, that means the llio author believes you can do reads and writes frm multiple threads
[19:58:55] <seb_kuzminsky> you can see if you're overwhelming your threads with 'halcmd show thread'
[19:58:56] <agwn> doesnt look like it is being set. see it for hm2_pci and hm2_test but no others...
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[19:59:14] <seb_kuzminsky> if the max-time is near your thread period you're in trouble
[19:59:22] <seb_kuzminsky> the max-time should be much smaller than the period
[19:59:36] <seb_kuzminsky> was it micges that wrote hm2_eth?
[20:00:25] <agwn> yep
[20:01:31] <seb_kuzminsky> which branch/repo is it in?
[20:04:22] <agwn> i am branched from ubc3-7i80 from git.linuxcnc.org
[20:05:18] <agwn> in working branch minor changes no dev on core components
[20:08:22] <agwn> stripped my hal file down to minimal and moved it back to the high speed thread. seems to be running now to add back in the other functionality.
[20:09:26] <agwn> think i went to two threads trying to solve another problem, fixed it but introduced another. back in one thread with original issue fixed and system is happier.
[20:09:40] <seb_kuzminsky> great
[20:09:55] <seb_kuzminsky> ok cool, i'm out of here for a bit
[20:10:00] <agwn> thanks!
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