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[00:03:41] <agwn> running preempt_rt kernel and trying to "loadrt threads name1=fast period1=1000000"
[00:03:45] <agwn> am getting the error rt HAL_LIB: ERROR: clock period to long: 4000000
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[00:06:38] <agwn> running latency-test has same result...
[00:08:28] <agwn> doesnt seem to care what period i set. always gives same error?
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[00:30:24] <skunkworks> aram told me my laptop was defective because it didn't run the tuning software for his drives from the cd... (the cd only had docs on it)
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[01:04:07] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Michael Geszkiewicz 052.6 34a0807 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/encoder.c 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/hostmot2.h hm2: Bring out A, B and INDEX inputs to hal pins. * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=34a0807
[01:04:07] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Michael Geszkiewicz 052.6 bf1c842 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/hm2_pci.c hm2: fix typo in 5i24 connector numbers * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=bf1c842
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[01:05:55] <micges> seb_kuzminsky: ^^ first change is simply forward 3 bits from encoder status reg to hal pins
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[01:33:12] <skunkworks> micges: have you beat the new driver into submission?
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[01:34:37] <micges> working on it atm
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[02:09:41] <cmorley> good news seb_kuzminsky. Thanks for fixing it.
[02:11:09] <kwallace2> Does anyone remember someone that had a really thorough write up on a Shizuoka mill with tool changer, maybe Karl Cunningham?
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[02:13:28] <kwallace> Darn, got bumped off.
[02:15:46] <seb_kuzminsky> looks good micges
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[02:19:58] <KGB-linuxcnc> 052.5-hm2-encoder-rawcounts-fix 7b0c303 06linuxcnc 04. branch deleted * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=7b0c303
[02:21:34] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.6 5221646 06linuxcnc Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/v2.5_branch' into 2.6 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=5221646
[02:22:25] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05master bea2b51 06linuxcnc Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/2.6' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=bea2b51
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[02:39:34] <seb_kuzminsky> cmorley: thanks for taking #375
[02:39:54] <cmorley> no problem
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[14:58:33] <kwallace2> Good morning. I'm trying to remember what component selects the closest pocket on a tool carousel -- something to do with entering a range, start number and target number and the output is the closest number. Any hints?
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[15:52:00] <kwallace2> cradek: I seem to recall manpage markup looking like awk, but it won't hurt to try.
[15:52:36] <seb_kuzminsky> i usually find a manpage that has roughly the same structure as what i want, and modify that
[15:54:30] <cradek> totally
[15:55:02] <seb_kuzminsky> copypaste > invent
[15:56:39] <kwallace2> Shoot, it takes me a half hour to look up the bits I forgot about in order edit a wiki page. (how to log in, layout, defeat CamelCase with <nowiki>, etcetera)
[15:57:53] <kwallace2> Life is rough, except the alternative.
[15:58:05] <seb_kuzminsky> and in the end you have a wiki page instead of normal documentation ;-)
[16:04:19] <kwallace2> What is normal?
[16:05:34] <archivist> the wiki pages go out of date, needs to be in main manual
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[16:24:44] <micges> does anyone used this functionality?
http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commit;h=e5858b2f054a0cfaf6b773ad22d572d490e58322
[16:26:10] <micges> (some of ini settings are exported to hal and can be changed at runtime)
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[16:30:06] <seb_kuzminsky> kwallace2: i consider manpages and asciidoc documentation normal
[16:30:54] <seb_kuzminsky> micges: i've never used it
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[16:35:06] <kwallace2> "What is normal?" was jokingly meant in more of a general context :)
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[16:42:38] <seb_kuzminsky> oops, i missed the joke :-/
[16:43:16] <seb_kuzminsky> i think the standard reply is: 'Normal' is a setting on my clothes dryer
[16:45:08] <archivist> I think striving to be normal is an illness :)
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[17:07:24] <mozmck> striving to be different is it's twin brother :)
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[18:22:50] <micges-dev> seb_kuzminsky: I found a typo in hal_lib.c:
http://pastebin.com/0aTGwPSL
[18:23:08] <micges-dev> (gladly both sizes are the same)
[18:23:16] <micges-dev> seb_kuzminsky: ok for 2.6 ?
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[18:49:02] <LAIR82_> Figured I might as well go straight to the top, I just pulled the latest and greatest, re-compiled and notice that when I go to run linux, the Create Desktop Shortcut link at the bottom of the selection page is grayed out. What could possibly make this happen?
[18:50:31] <cradek> perhaps
http://sourceforge.net/p/emc/bugs/372/
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[18:54:30] <skunkworks_> cradek: do we need a ok from rob before the new tp gets merged?
[18:54:49] <skunkworks_> (with your re-work on the git stuff?)
[18:58:56] <cradek> uhhhh
[18:58:58] <cradek> I dunno
[18:59:07] <cradek> I guess I was hoping he'd do it when he's ready
[18:59:22] <cradek> but I'm pretty sure he clearly said he was ready, so one of us could do it
[18:59:30] <cradek> what do you think?
[19:00:24] <skunkworks_> I am all for it. (and anyone can yell at me if they find an issue with it) ;)
[19:00:38] <skunkworks_> I am used to being yelled at.)
[19:02:41] <skunkworks_> one thing I just thought of.. rob changed the coloring of the blends.. (well I am color blind so he may have changed more - I don't know) parabolc blends are yellow. so you can see when the planner falls back to them..
[19:03:13] <skunkworks_> I think it is ok and my let people know if they don't have the ini setup.
[19:03:53] <cradek> is there any ini setup required, or does it all have sensible defaults?
[19:04:01] <cradek> (I feel strongly about there being sensible defaults)
[19:04:39] <skunkworks_> it runs parabolic blending (original tp) if now ini settings are present..
[19:04:58] <cradek> that's a bug we should fix
[19:05:14] <skunkworks_> (well with his refactoring and constriant violation fixes)
[19:06:14] <skunkworks_> you think the new behavour should be default? there are 4 settings with the new tp.
[19:07:03] <skunkworks_> let me find robs explaination
[19:07:05] <cradek> yes the improvements should be on by default! it's the whole point.
[19:09:18] <skunkworks_> http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/10-advanced-configuration/27368-new-trajectory-planner-testersprograms-wanted?start=120#44419
[19:09:19] <skunkworks_> http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/10-advanced-configuration/27368-new-trajectory-planner-testersprograms-wanted?start=130#44474
[19:09:26] <skunkworks_> actually 5 settings...
[19:09:54] <skunkworks_> the defaults he has there are what I have been using
[19:14:16] <skunkworks_> If I remember correctly - if arc blending is enabled - it has sane settings for the others. (with out specifying it in the ini) (but a look at the code would be in order)
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[19:15:01] <skunkworks_> I am all for it.
[19:23:37] <seb_kuzminsky> micges-dev: that should probably go in 2.5
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[19:23:56] <seb_kuzminsky> (the bug is present there too, and your proposed fix is clearly right)
[19:25:54] <micges> seb_kuzminsky: ok
[19:26:06] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks_, cradek: i had hoped to finish my new tp tests first, but it doesnt look like that's going to happen
[19:26:34] <seb_kuzminsky> so dont wait for me
[19:26:44] <seb_kuzminsky> i agree with cradek that it should be on by default
[19:26:52] <seb_kuzminsky> are the new ini settings documented?
[19:27:22] <skunkworks_> seb_kuzminsky: only on the 2 links I posted above.
[19:27:39] <skunkworks_> (pretty good explanations.)
[19:28:11] <cradek> forum posts are an even worse place for documentation than the wiki
[19:28:39] <cradek> micges: yes please do put that on v2.5_branch
[19:29:06] <skunkworks_> cradek: I agree...
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[19:29:53] <skunkworks_> they should go somewhere.. I could put them on a wiki somewhere for now. (but it probably won't happen until I get back)
[19:30:16] <skunkworks_> http://electronicsam.com/images/house/DSC_0347.JPG
[19:30:20] <seb_kuzminsky> it's more fun to write code than to write docs, so i can understand procrastinating that part... but it *does* need to happen before release, and preferably before merge
[19:32:12] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks_: cute :-)
[19:34:37] <seb_kuzminsky> have any of you ever printed anything from ClassicLadder? me neither
[19:35:15] <skunkworks_> I tried it once.. I think there is an issue. IIRC Kim was trying to fix it...
[19:35:33] <seb_kuzminsky> the printing library that classicladder uses (libgnomeprintui) went away in Ubuntu Trusy 14.04
[19:35:55] <seb_kuzminsky> wow, it doesn't even work when the library *is* present... :-(
[19:36:16] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm going to remove libgnomeprintui-dev as a build dependency in 2.6 unless someone complains
[19:36:22] <seb_kuzminsky> in 10... 9...
[19:37:06] <cradek> I have probably done it once or more
[19:37:35] <cradek> it's fairly handy when working on nontrivial ladders
[19:38:29] <seb_kuzminsky> hmm, ok
[19:45:57] <skunkworks_> rough draft..
[19:46:06] <skunkworks_> http://pastebin.ca/2765738
[19:46:25] <skunkworks_> I will send it to rob and ask about the defaults and enabling by default.
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[20:06:01] <cradek> micges: thank you
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[20:07:11] <cradek> skunkworks_: fortunately for ini entries, it's easy to know where to put them
[20:07:14] <cradek> in the docs I mean
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[22:28:52] <andypugh> micges: I have some unconnected encoders so sometimes see quadrature errors. I think you might have forgotten an \n in the HM2_ERR statements in d0bf76b1d47e4db7f9ea791fd13ccb12faaca1c8
[22:29:06] <andypugh> (the errors all wrap round for line after line)
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[22:31:48] <andypugh> PCW: Has anyone reported problems with 7i73 encoders not counting? I can see 7i73 inputs 00 and 01 toggling as I move the wheel, the signal looks like quadrature, but the counts don’t count. I may be being bitten by a bug that I wrote..
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[22:33:18] <seb_kuzminsky> i like it when my bugs bite me before they bite anyone else
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[22:34:45] <andypugh> I just noticed that Aram upgraded LinuxCNC and now his 2.2 config won’t work. I bet that is my fault.
[22:34:49] <micges-dev> andypugh: thanks, checking..
[22:36:47] <micges-dev> andypugh: yep missing \n, thanks for report
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[22:39:41] <andypugh> micges-dev: It possibly ought to not report the errors indefinitely
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[23:00:48] <micges> it should report only one
[23:02:28] <micges> I tested it with hardware and it worked ok
[23:02:39] <micges> what is your setup?
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[23:10:24] <andypugh> A 7i39 which generally has nothing plugged in (optional A-axis)
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[23:12:16] <micges> and when second encoder error shows up?
[23:12:57] <PCW> 7I73 encoder counts work for me (at least enc0)
[23:12:58] <andypugh> I was getting a complete screen-full of quad errors
[23:13:28] <andypugh> But I actually have no idea what variant of LinuxCNC is on there at the moment.
[23:13:46] <andypugh> I think it might be a jog-while-paused JA4
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[23:14:48] <micges> so it's before that fix of fix you mentioned
[23:15:48] <andypugh> Aye, I need to revert to something “normal” before getting carried away.
[23:16:04] <micges> or comment out this line
[23:16:19] <PCW> encoder errors really need an enable pin (so things like drives that generate encoder errors at startup can have the encoder errors masked)
[23:17:31] <PCW> also this would allow unused encoders to have any errors masked (in case you used encoder 0,1,3 for example)
[23:19:31] <micges> PCW: this error Andy mentioned have error enable pin, he just use code before that
[23:20:20] <PCW> OK I didn't notice that was there
[23:21:11] <PCW> I did check the A,B,I pins (halscoped them on a 7I77 which was not possible before)
[23:22:05] <micges> it works I assume? ;)
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[23:23:21] <PCW> Yep though it was hard to turn the encoder slow enough to catch the index pulse at 1 KHz servo thread
[23:25:30] <micges> PCW: can you test it also on non muxed encoders?
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[23:26:50] <micges> I don't have any setup for such tests atm
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[23:28:15] <PCW> yeah I can check with a 7I76 config
[23:28:40] <PCW> (and not have to open the test computer box)
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[23:39:45] <CaptHindsight> PCW: which mini-itx boards were you trying recently and did they have integrated LPT?
[23:41:28] <PCW> Gigabyte J1800 and it has built in LPT (that works in epp mode)
[23:42:19] <CaptHindsight> I need to slap it onto the back of an LCD
[23:42:30] <PCW> micges: A/B/I work on non muxed encoders also
[23:43:15] <PCW> maybe a thin mini-itx model (no PCI/PCIE expansion) would fit better
[23:44:21] <micges-dev> PCW: thats good, thanks
[23:44:25] <PCW> only problem with J1800s is that you need a new kernel if you want accelerated graphics
[23:44:40] <CaptHindsight> just run AXIS
[23:45:23] <PCW> even the funky old 2.6.32 RTAI kernel works (but without acceleration)
[23:45:30] <CaptHindsight> PCW: newer than the 3.4.55?
[23:45:41] <PCW> Yes 3.12 or >
[23:45:58] <PCW> Im running preemt-rt on mine
[23:46:22] <PCW> 2.6.32 RTAI was ~ 8 usec latencies
[23:46:53] <CaptHindsight> I just want to run 2 steppers off a tablet or touchscreen
[23:46:58] <PCW> plus about 3x as fast as Atom (NP with 5KHz servo thread)
[23:47:40] <CaptHindsight> hard to find anything with LPT or even an expresscard slot
[23:47:54] <PCW> etherhm2 and a cheap FPGA board
[23:47:55] <CaptHindsight> panel PC, all-in-one or laptop
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[23:48:31] <CaptHindsight> is etherhm2 ready for prime time?
[23:49:02] <PCW> Well Ive had a stepgen config up 24/7 for a month now at 2 KHz without a hiccup
[23:49:18] <PCW> (on J1800)
[23:49:26] <PCW> so pretty close
[23:49:56] <CaptHindsight> the allwinner kernel and tool chain is still a magical train wreck
[23:50:05] <PCW> I just dont have a cheap ethernet endpoint (but working on one)
[23:50:31] <CaptHindsight> I need it by Tuesday :)
[23:50:55] <PCW> use a 7I76E (just huge and overkill)
[23:51:37] <CaptHindsight> maybe i should buy up every older keyboard PC with an LPT in sight
[23:51:45] <PCW> 5 stepgens 48 I/O , spindle encoder spindle 0-->10V RS422 expansion
[23:52:23] <PCW> Almost all the new J1800,J1900,J2900 MBs have LPT
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[23:52:39] <PCW> many on backpanel DB25s
[23:53:40] <PCW> Gigabyte, Asus, ECS, Biostar, ASRock etc
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[23:55:47] <CaptHindsight> then I still have to build it into an LCD+touch
[23:55:47] <PCW> a cheap one:
[23:55:49] <PCW> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157498
[23:57:05] <PCW> well lay out a cheap FPGA card with a Micrel ethernet chip and I'll port the EtherHM2 firmware in a a day or two :-)
[23:58:15] <PCW> use a BBB
[23:58:32] <cradek> you already can't buy them
[23:58:44] <CaptHindsight> need to run a display
[23:59:05] <CaptHindsight> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Useful-Industrial-Desktop-2-LPT-15-Inch-All-in-one-PC-QY-15C-DICA/918954436.html
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