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[06:05:15] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.6 8880d3a 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/components/mux_generic.c mux_generic: add missing return value check * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=8880d3a
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[07:15:46] <linuxcnc-build> build #184 of 4017.deb-wheezy-armhf is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4017.deb-wheezy-armhf/builds/184 blamelist: Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>
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[11:11:04] <ktchk> I did use a dell vostro 1510 load with ubuntu 12.04 3.4.55 and linuxcnc but the nvadia driver is not working linuxcnc need glx so not sucess to test linxcnc on it
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[13:14:02] <pcw_home> ktchk: dont know if this helps with 12.04:
[13:14:03] <pcw_home> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Installing_EMC2#Nvidia_Card_configuration_issues
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[14:42:19] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: i just got "remote: warning: refname 'v2.6.0-pre1' is ambiguous." too
[14:42:24] <seb_kuzminsky> maybe i just missed it earlier?
[14:44:52] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05master 038bc94 06linuxcnc Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/2.6' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=038bc94
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[14:59:56] <cradek> I wonder if 71d59fde was supposed to be in 2.6
[15:00:39] <seb_kuzminsky> could be
[15:01:05] <seb_kuzminsky> i'll ask him next time i see him
[15:04:47] <seb_kuzminsky> ok i mailed him
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[15:13:24] <cradek> I could upgrade git on the server from 1.8.4 to 1.9.0
[15:13:45] <cradek> (1.8.4.3)
[15:15:08] <skunkworks> rob emailed me and said he had issues figuring out the issue and rewrote most of the arc_feed function in cannon. it seems to have fixed most of the issue
[15:15:57] <skunkworks> (but I think he is pretty busy with school right now)
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[15:17:48] <seb_kuzminsky> yowser
[15:17:54] <seb_kuzminsky> he's very prolific
[15:18:06] <seb_kuzminsky> makes me wish we had good unit tests for some of our internal functions
[15:18:34] <skunkworks> sure.. I ran a buch of random stuff through it before it showed an issue.
[15:19:08] <skunkworks> I blame the keyborad
[15:19:11] <skunkworks> ;)
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[15:19:24] <seb_kuzminsky> i guess we should keep poking at it in the feature branch until rob's happy with it and the rate of discovery of new bugs slows to near zero
[15:20:04] <skunkworks> right - so far (well with what I have been testing) it is very close.
[15:20:19] <seb_kuzminsky> that's wonderful
[15:20:27] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm just starting to look at it too
[15:20:48] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm way behind you
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[15:21:38] <seb_kuzminsky> hmm, that's two lathe-mode bug reports from gene heskett in the past few days, agains 2.7.0-pre0
[15:22:00] <skunkworks> he wanted me to test the current slash and burn - so it is in his github..
https://github.com/robEllenberg/linuxcnc-mirror/tree/circular-blend-arc-experimental2
[15:23:56] <skunkworks> gene....
[15:26:57] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 052.6 27ae7c7 06linuxcnc 10tcl/bin/emccalib.tcl emccalib.tcl: improve noncompatible ini message * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=27ae7c7
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[15:28:33] <seb_kuzminsky> dgarr: does this address gene's issue?
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[15:34:11] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: have urls handy?
[15:35:10] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Norbert Schechner 052.6 90bb5f4 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/gmoccapy/gmoccapy.glade 10src/emc/usr_intf/gmoccapy/gmoccapy.py 10src/emc/usr_intf/gmoccapy/release_notes.txt gmoccapy_1_1_3 - solved G92 as system bug * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=90bb5f4
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[15:36:09] <seb_kuzminsky> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.devel/13142
[15:36:14] <seb_kuzminsky> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.devel/13144
[15:36:51] <cradek> oh, not really bug reports...
[15:37:34] <cradek> hm the limits one looks important
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[15:39:10] <cradek> limits in sim/axis/lathe.ini look right
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[15:40:50] <ktchk> I got the linuxcnc 2.6 install and tested on a dell 1510 nvidia video card. Have to disable all others kernels installed before. And then install the nvidia 173.14.39 VDPAU driver.
[15:41:34] <cradek> the nvidia proprietary driver messes up latency, and should be avoided
[15:45:01] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: I asked for his ini (wfm in 2.6 and master)
[15:47:08] <ktchk> Yes latency not good but which driver for nvidia card?
[15:47:31] <cradek> vesa usually works
[15:47:53] <cradek> and if you install and then do nothing special, it usually works
[15:48:01] <ktchk> but display will be 800x600
[15:48:08] <cradek> not in my experience
[15:48:15] <ktchk> Thnaks
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[15:54:24] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: thanks for checking
[15:54:57] <cradek> I'm in bug-squashing mode
[15:55:01] <seb_kuzminsky> i probably sound like a broken record, but i wish we had tests of fundamental functionality like "jog or mdi into the soft limits and make sure we stop in the right place"
[15:55:02] <cradek> it's fun for a change
[15:55:08] <seb_kuzminsky> then we'd know without spending any time on it
[15:55:30] <seb_kuzminsky> yay :-)
[15:55:59] <cradek> tests for things that you see and use every single time you use the software aren't the most useful tests
[15:56:21] <cradek> gene probably has something weird - much harder to test for that kind of thing
[15:57:12] <cradek> gui stuff is even harder (does the mist checkbutton disappear when you start AXIS without anything connected to the iocontrol pin?)
[15:57:39] <cradek> that's why I throw up my hands and instead just try running it and looking around for weirdness :-/
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[15:58:34] <cradek> people with and without institutional knowledge see different weirdnesses
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[15:58:59] <cradek> I'm rambling
[15:59:05] <skunkworks> heh
[16:03:25] <skunkworks> I don't know how you could test motion... seems like there could always be that one situation that wasn't handled..
[16:04:07] <cradek> running some gcode and watching motion's output for constraint violations seems fairly possible compared to some of these other things
[16:04:10] <skunkworks> I guess you could randomly build a path everytime.. (but can you build it randomly enough)
[16:04:27] <cradek> it would be really useful to add that since TP work will probably be ongoing for a while
[16:04:43] <cradek> you'd want to use fixed gcode, so the test is deterministic
[16:04:49] <skunkworks> I think rob has some runtests setup.. (I think)
[16:04:57] <cradek> the fixed gcode should be chosen carefully to exercise "everything"
[16:05:11] <skunkworks> that is the probelm.. 'everything'
[16:05:16] <cradek> yep
[16:07:44] * cradek feels bad saying "yeah sure but that's hard" to seb
[16:07:51] <skunkworks> https://github.com/robEllenberg/linuxcnc-mirror/tree/circular-blend-arc-experimental2/tests/trajectory-planner/circular-arcs
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[16:33:51] <seb_kuzminsky> i started looking at those tests this morning
[16:34:07] <seb_kuzminsky> it's not integrated with runtests, so it requires a human to run it
[16:34:14] <seb_kuzminsky> it's a good start though
[16:34:40] <seb_kuzminsky> i'll ask rob if he wants me to work on integrating his tests with runtests
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[16:44:19] <seb_kuzminsky> iit seems easy to verify velocity & acceleration constraints in motion
[16:44:47] <seb_kuzminsky> run halsampler and record the waypoints, the have checkresults compute vel & acc and compare to the ini-file limits
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[16:45:39] <seb_kuzminsky> i've been thinking about how to test the positions themselves - specifically to verify TP adherence to the G64 P-word
[16:46:21] <seb_kuzminsky> you could run each ngc file through sai first, so that checkresults can compare the canonical path with the waypoints you got from halsampler after TP processed the path
[16:47:15] <seb_kuzminsky> each waypoint should be within $P_WORD of the currenct path segment, until you're within $P_WORD of the end of the current segment, then you go on to the next
[16:48:31] <seb_kuzminsky> this algorithm gets into trouble when a path segment passes within $P_WORD of its endpoint, for example a complete or nearly-complete circle
[16:48:44] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm not sure how to tell checkresults to stay on the current path segment in that situation
[16:49:38] <seb_kuzminsky> rob mailed me back and accepted my offer of help with integrating his test
[16:49:57] <seb_kuzminsky> (he prefers to receive github pull requests, fwiw, which is fine by me)
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[16:50:10] <seb_kuzminsky> ok, back to work for me
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