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[01:00:52] <dgarr> i am ready to merge the demo_appsv6 branch to master if there are no (big) objections
[01:02:08] <andypugh> Not from me, I don't even know what you are describing.
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[01:11:15] <memleak> http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/dgarr/demo_appsv6
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[01:18:04] <memleak> Is Tcl/Tk very difficult to modify or am I just doing it wrong (text editor) are there graphical toolkits for Tcl/Tk or something?
[01:18:45] <memleak> helper utilities etc to manage the source for you to an extent?
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[01:42:55] <ju-emb> Anyone any idea what's wrong with my fresh LCNC sim on 12.04.
[01:42:57] <ju-emb> I used
[01:42:59] <ju-emb> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Bhttp://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Build_A_Simulator_Manuallyuild_A_Simulator_Manually
[01:43:03] <ju-emb> It doesn't run. Outputs on:
[01:43:05] <ju-emb> http://pastebin.com/p2j99nJz
[01:48:48] <skunkworks> does glxgears run? it is pointing to broken opengl
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[01:58:12] <skunkworks> I had a similar problem with ati using the fglrx driver. (works fine either using the open source mesa driver or the catlyist(for sim)
[01:58:45] <memleak> catalyst is fglrx
[01:58:56] <memleak> well... the config tool for it
[02:02:33] <skunkworks> all I know is the one ubuntu wants to install always breaks my opengl (fglrx) and the catylist driver from ati's site works. (or the open source driver - but that makes this laptop run too hot)
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[02:03:07] <skunkworks> but I would not use the catylist driver for realtime machines
[02:03:34] <memleak> ah yes, i love how the drivers perform so much differently when you install amd drivers from official website and when you install via synaptic, even though it's the same driver versions... forgot about that with debian based distros!
[02:03:59] <memleak> closed source from AMD yet perhaps somehow modified? :/
[02:05:03] <skunkworks> no clue
[02:06:25] <memleak> for the record i think it's safe to say not only to avoid amd's closed drivers, but closed drivers in general for real-time. i've seen latency spikes with closed source blobs for broadcom's NICs and we all know how linuxcnc performs with nvidia blobs :)
[02:07:32] <skunkworks> agreed
[02:16:58] <ju-emb> so what are the recommended driver for my box. It's an AMD64 with ATI Chipset
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[02:22:25] <ju-emb> starting glxgears brings same errors as the start of LinuxCNC
[02:22:27] <ju-emb> any ideas how to fix it?
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[02:25:38] <skunkworks> what video driver are you using - my luck has been (if it is just for simulation) go with the catylist driver from ati's site
[02:29:50] <ju-emb> I remember that the catalyst driver runs up to a specific kernel version.
[02:31:25] <andypugh> What motherboard?
[02:31:53] <memleak> ju-emb, that is correct.
[02:32:15] <memleak> i'd check the release notes of the driver before installing as you can end up with borked X that will not start.
[02:32:17] <andypugh> There was a message on the mailing list or forum in the last coiuple of weeks where someone ended up working through old versions of drivers to find the best one
[02:33:00] <memleak> http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/latest-linux-beta-driver.aspx that page says kernels up to 3.13
[02:33:48] <memleak> amd driver 13.12 (latest linux non-beta) says up to kernel 3.11
[02:37:43] <ju-emb> andypugh: I'm trying to find out what motherboard that is, but no luck until now, the box took the way in the garbage long time ago
[02:38:04] <andypugh> boot screen?
[02:38:33] <ju-emb> ok, so I have to restart the box
[02:39:05] <ju-emb> rebooting ....
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[02:43:28] <ju-emb> whao andypugh knows where to loockup informations.
[02:43:30] <ju-emb> I didn't know that the MB-Version comes up on bootscreen
[02:44:07] <ju-emb> it's a A760G M2+ (A76GM113 BF)
[02:46:43] <ju-emb> stopping the chat and reboot I've lost the chat history.
[02:46:44] <ju-emb> someone can post the link to the catalyst 14xx driver again, thanks
[02:47:59] <memleak> http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/latest-linux-beta-driver.aspx
[02:48:00] <andypugh> It looks like no-one has ever mentioned that board on LinuxCNC
[02:48:35] <ju-emb> I'm not using it for realtime, it's my developer machine
[02:50:26] <ju-emb> I've to write some g-code to make gears on the 4th axis, and it's better do that on the desk in a nice chair than in the shop standing in front of the machine
[02:51:00] <ju-emb> so I tried the sim on my devel machine
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[02:53:24] <ju-emb> LSPCI say's [AMD/ATI] RS780L [Radeon 3000]
[02:53:26] <ju-emb> so the catalyst Beta driver will not help
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[03:00:15] <memleak> for older GPUs (pre HD series) you'll need these:
http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/legacy?product=Legacy2&os=Linux+x86
[03:02:06] <memleak> *pre 5000 HD series
[03:04:24] <ju-emb> That driver is sitting on my hdd in the download folder already,
[03:04:26] <ju-emb> means some time ago I tried it but as I remember it slows the system down so that it was impossible to use
[03:06:07] <ju-emb> OK, it seems there is no easy way to make that work on my machine.
[03:06:09] <ju-emb> So I'll do a night-shift ssh-ing into the shop machine and doing the gear programming
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[09:53:08] <azcnc> hey
[09:54:03] <azcnc> i need help for my my camtech router z7
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[09:57:12] <skunkworks> logger[mah]_:
[09:57:12] <logger[mah]_> skunkworks: Log stored at
http://linuxcnc.mah.priv.at/irc/%23linuxcnc-devel/2014-03-22.html
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[10:14:36] <jthornton> morning Sam
[10:18:59] <skunkworks> morning John - early for a saturday
[10:23:21] <jthornton> I usually get up at 5 every day
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[13:19:05] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05master ef7d8bf 06linuxcnc 10(201 files in 41 dirs) configs/apps: new directory and .demo support * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=ef7d8bf
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[14:35:50] <linuxcnc-build> build #87 of 4017.deb-wheezy-armhf is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4017.deb-wheezy-armhf/builds/87 blamelist: Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
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[19:58:18] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05master cba0562 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/Submakefile 10docs/src/checkref docs: detect bad links in all docs, not just some... * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=cba0562
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[21:14:22] <linuxcnc-build> build #88 of 4017.deb-wheezy-armhf is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4017.deb-wheezy-armhf/builds/88 blamelist: Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>
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