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[17:08:40] <pcw_home> has anyone tried the 3.4.55 RTAI kernel on Ubuntu 14.04?
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[17:20:39] <skunkworks> I thought 14.04 was beta
[17:21:41] <pcw_home> it it but release is April 17
[17:22:43] <skunkworks> oh - cool
[17:23:02] * skunkworks needs to get a ssd for his laptop - then install 14.04
[17:23:29] <pcw_home> testing on my new Baytrail MB Its really neat
[17:23:42] <skunkworks> cool
[17:23:50] <skunkworks> *neat
[17:24:29] <pcw_home> ~8 usec latency with FF/flash videos running, 4 KHZ servo loops and all
[17:24:50] <skunkworks> this is rtai?
[17:24:53] <pcw_home> maybe 2/3 times faster than the Atom MBs
[17:25:06] <pcw_home> yes RTAI
[17:25:14] <skunkworks> on 12.04 ?
[17:25:15] <pcw_home> no tweaks yet
[17:25:31] <pcw_home> 12.04 with 2.6.122
[17:25:33] <skunkworks> nice
[17:25:51] <pcw_home> cooler than the Atoms
[17:26:37] <pcw_home> (you can rest your hand on the passively cooled heatsink comfortably)
[17:27:00] <skunkworks> wow - link?>
[17:27:09] <pcw_home> and the parallel port works with our EPP cards
[17:27:55] <pcw_home> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128688
[17:28:44] <pcw_home> I had to update the BIOs (well EFIOs) to get Ubuntu to boot
[17:29:07] <pcw_home> they have some with PCI instead of PCIE but not out yet
[17:30:23] <pcw_home> http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4895#ov
[17:33:07] <pcw_home> This looks nice also:
[17:33:09] <pcw_home> https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/J1800IA/
[17:35:57] <pcw_home> They seem about as fast as Core2 Duos of the same clock speed (they are 2 core 2.4 GHz) so much snappier than the Atoms
[17:36:20] <skunkworks> nice
[17:36:26] <skunkworks> that should help a lot...
[17:36:43] <skunkworks> have you tried them with rt-preempt?
[17:37:03] <pcw_home> Not yet
[17:38:20] <skunkworks> well - throw one of you hd in there!
[17:38:40] <pcw_home> I had such a Frankenstein system on the hard drive I just started again from scratch so will first try the 3.4.55 RTAI kernel
[17:39:14] <pcw_home> 10.04 updated to 12.04 updated to 14.04
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[17:40:29] <skunkworks> yikes
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[17:41:41] <pcw_home> I have a clean 14.04 on it now, i will see if that can be made to work, other wise I'll start with a clean12.04
[17:43:44] <skunkworks> you should have just kept the hd I sent you :)
[17:44:39] <pcw_home> Probably :-)
[17:50:07] <pcw_home> The nice thing about the J1800 MBs is there are about 10 different ones now but since
[17:50:09] <pcw_home> its effectively a SOC, all the MBs are pretty much the same except for minor details
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[17:55:37] <skunkworks> that should help to keep latency consistant
[17:57:59] <pcw_home> I got the ~8 usec with power management enabled (but it may have never gotten hot enough to do anything)
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[18:11:39] <skunkworks> heat gun... ;)
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[18:18:40] <pcw_home> I dont want to kill it just yet...
[18:19:07] <pcw_home> (I did before I upgraded the BIOS)
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[18:42:20] <skunkworks> what happed with the old bios?
[18:43:06] <jthornton> skunkworks, who is working on the new trajectory planner? I forget...
[18:43:44] <skunkworks> Robert Ellenberg
[18:44:14] <jthornton> ok, is he working on any rotary axes?
[18:44:36] <jthornton> he just uses the mail list IIRC?
[18:45:54] <pcw_home> skunkworks: no boot with Ubuntu no matter what I tried
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[18:53:23] <skunkworks> jthornton: I have asked him about it - but if you wanted to start an email thread in devel - it might get him re-thinking about it :)
[18:53:54] <jthornton> ok, I have a friend that could really use it
[18:55:43] <skunkworks> this is what he had replied when I asked about abc look ahead
[18:55:47] <skunkworks> Doing anything other than line-line blends in 9D is a nightmare and probably not worth it, but line-line is basically the same math, once you have the unit vectors and angles and such.
[18:55:48] <skunkworks> If axes have dissimilar acceleration limits, the acceleration would be limited by the most sluggish axis. I can overcome this limit in 3D somewhat with a mathematical trick, but I'm not sure if the same is possible in 9D. (I could just
[18:55:49] <skunkworks> Another possibility is to normalize the coordinates (i.e. scale everything so that the accelerations are equal, then "unscale" it when getting a position. It's not perfect since you could have an axis that had high acceleration but low maximum velocity.
[18:55:51] <skunkworks> We'd have to express arc-length and velocity as the 9D equivale
[18:56:35] <skunkworks> which is close to bla, bla, bla to me
[18:56:50] <jthornton> ok, I just started an email
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[18:57:21] <skunkworks> Yay - (I get tired of asking all the questions) :)
[18:58:59] * jthornton goes back to the shop
[18:59:30] <skunkworks> (I sound like an eager school kid)
[18:59:39] <skunkworks> 'brown noser'
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