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[08:12:46] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb 12a57cb 06linuxcnc 10debian/rules.in deb/rules: drop the self-remaking parts * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=12a57cb
[08:12:46] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb f182af1 06linuxcnc 10debian/rules.in deb/rules: remove unused python_version * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=f182af1
[08:12:46] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb 947c996 06linuxcnc 10debian/rules.in deb/rules: dont need to care about BUILD_SYS * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=947c996
[08:12:47] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb d22d5f1 06linuxcnc 10debian/.gitignore deb: dont ignore package-dirs we no longer build * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=d22d5f1
[08:12:51] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb d21604a 06linuxcnc 10(12 files) deb: new debian/configure and debian/control* * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=d21604a
[08:12:55] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb 7ba6898 06linuxcnc 10debian/control.in deb: get rid of ancient Provides in control * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=7ba6898
[08:12:58] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb be181ba 06linuxcnc 10debian/configure deb/conf: accept -a to mean -r * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=be181ba
[08:13:02] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb cbaab05 06linuxcnc 10debian/control.posix.in 10debian/control.rtai.in 10debian/control.rtpreempt.in deb/control: relax the Conflicts * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=cbaab05
[08:13:07] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb a560254 06linuxcnc 10debian/rules.in deb/rules: dont use cpio when cp will do * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=a560254
[08:13:10] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb aa55f62 06linuxcnc 10debian/linuxcnc.files.in 10src/Makefile install rsyslogd.conf file * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa55f62
[08:13:14] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb 96c71ae 06linuxcnc 10debian/rules.in deb/rules: leave the rtapi_app_posix program suid root * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=96c71ae
[08:13:18] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb b87d3e1 06linuxcnc 10src/configure.in 10src/rtapi/ulapi_autoload.c give dlopen the path to the ulapi library * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=b87d3e1
[08:13:22] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb 8a0c9a4 06linuxcnc 10src/Makefile 10src/rtapi/Submakefile put ulapi-$flavor.so straight into rtlib/, not lib, so the dlopen can look in EMC2_RTLIB_DIR * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=8a0c9a4
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[08:18:39] <seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=seb/ubc3-deb checkin
[08:18:45] <linuxcnc-build> The build has been queued, I'll give a shout when it starts
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[09:26:24] <linuxcnc-build> build #22 of deb-precise-xenomai-binary-x86 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_1] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-precise-xenomai-binary-x86/builds/22 blamelist: dummy, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>
[09:26:31] <linuxcnc-build> build #22 of deb-precise-xenomai-binary-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_1] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-precise-xenomai-binary-amd64/builds/22 blamelist: dummy, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>
[09:27:47] <linuxcnc-build> build #22 of deb-precise-rtpreempt-binary-x86 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_1] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-precise-rtpreempt-binary-x86/builds/22 blamelist: dummy, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>
[09:27:59] <linuxcnc-build> build #22 of deb-precise-rtpreempt-binary-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_1] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-precise-rtpreempt-binary-amd64/builds/22 blamelist: dummy, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>
[09:41:48] <linuxcnc-build> build forced [ETA 1h21m33s]
[09:41:48] <linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
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[10:30:35] <linuxcnc-build> build #1312 of deb-lucid-rt-binary-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
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[11:17:12] <linuxcnc-build> build #23 of deb-precise-xenomai-binary-x86 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_1] Build details are at
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[11:17:14] <linuxcnc-build> build #23 of deb-precise-xenomai-binary-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_1] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-precise-xenomai-binary-amd64/builds/23
[11:19:18] <linuxcnc-build> build #23 of deb-precise-rtpreempt-binary-x86 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_1] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-precise-rtpreempt-binary-x86/builds/23
[11:19:29] <linuxcnc-build> build #23 of deb-precise-rtpreempt-binary-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_1] Build details are at
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[11:31:18] <linuxcnc-build> Hey! build checkin #1702 is complete: Success [3build successful]
[11:31:18] <linuxcnc-build> Build details are at
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[17:48:22] <zultron> Hey seb_kuzminsky, I'm gearing up to look at non-RIP installs. The first hunk of your commit b87d3e18d breaks Red Hat, which puts x86_64 library files into /usr/lib64.
[17:49:19] <zultron> I know that's different on Debian. What did that first hunk do for you? I'd have thought it was a no-op on either Debian or Red Hat 32-bit.
[17:49:45] <seb_kuzminsky> which commit?
[17:49:52] <zultron> b87d3e18d
[17:49:58] <seb_kuzminsky> just a sec
[17:50:57] <seb_kuzminsky> the first hunk of the configure.in
[17:51:41] <zultron> Right, sorry.
[17:52:13] <seb_kuzminsky> my goal was to get the install location known by ulapi_autload, and AC_DEFINE_UNQUOTED only does one round of variable expansion
[17:52:20] <seb_kuzminsky> it's a no-op for everything else
[17:52:49] <zultron> Oh yes, the one round of expansion problem. :P
[17:53:08] <zultron> That's what led to the horrible scripts/gen-rtapi.ini.sh.in.tmpl
[17:54:14] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah :-/
[17:54:20] <seb_kuzminsky> autoconf is not my favourite thing ever
[17:54:33] <zultron> We need to get rid of this notion of the 'RIP build'.
[17:54:43] <seb_kuzminsky> why?
[17:55:20] <zultron> The autoconf way of doing it is to set ${prefix} to wherever you want things to end up.
[17:55:51] <zultron> I forget the exact problem, but it's related to the single expansion problem you found,
[17:56:39] <zultron> but treating RIP installs and system installs leads to different handling of things,
[17:56:54] <zultron> and when RIP works just fine, things can easily be broken in system installs.
[17:57:15] <zultron> I'll have to go review what that was all about, related to a maze of twisty little passages.
[17:58:16] <seb_kuzminsky> if you want redhat to be a supported platform, do you want to run a redhat buildslave?
[17:58:27] <zultron> Yeah.
[17:58:40] <zultron> I'm working on it....
[17:58:57] <seb_kuzminsky> ok
[17:59:33] <zultron> Although I don't see this as a Red Hat problem (although that wacky /usr/lib64 is... wacky).
[18:00:16] <seb_kuzminsky> i think redhat support should block the 2.6 release, it'd rather try to merge what you guys have now
[18:00:26] <seb_kuzminsky> feature creep is an awful thing
[18:00:50] <seb_kuzminsky> got to go, $DAYJOB calls :-/
[18:01:01] <zultron> Working on MLK day? Sucks.
[18:02:00] <seb_kuzminsky> yes it does
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[18:05:00] <zultron> Anyway, I'll think about it harder. You have a good point that these are dlopen()ed libs, not regular system shared libs, so maybe ${libdir} isn't the correct location in this case.
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[18:25:11] <seb_kuzminsky> zultron: /usr/lib/linuxcnc seems like the right place for ulapi-*.so:
http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_2.3/fhs-2.3.html#USRLIBLIBRARIESFORPROGRAMMINGANDPA
[18:25:25] <seb_kuzminsky> argh *now* i'm going to ignore linuxcnc and earn a paycheck
[18:25:39] <zultron> I think you're right. Thanks for the fix!
[18:26:37] <zultron> The confusion was about
http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_2.3/fhs-2.3.html#LIBLTQUALGTALTERNATEFORMATESSENTIAL
[18:27:42] <zultron> What's more important is that dlopen() on Red Hat 64-bit still searches /usr/lib, not /usr/lib64, so your commit log is correct.
[18:27:52] <zultron> (Told you it's wacky.)
[18:31:21] <seb_kuzminsky> it may be that /usr/lib<qual>/linuxcnc is more correct than what i said above:
http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_2.3/fhs-2.3.html#USRLIBLTQUALGTALTERNATEFORMATLIBRARI
[18:31:28] <seb_kuzminsky> what am i still doing here
[18:31:32] <skunkworks_> seb! get to work!
[18:31:38] <seb_kuzminsky> bye for now!
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[18:50:42] <seb_kuzminsky> sigh, i forgot a word up above. i think redhat support should **NOT** block the 2.6 release. put no more features into ubc please
[18:53:01] <skunkworks_> I actually was wondering...
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[19:23:40] <zultron> Sure, no plans to block the release with new features or RH support!
[19:24:13] <owhite> Hello people - does anyone know if there has been a fix for the issue of the glade editor not finding gladevcp? A description is here
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=31823982 and there are other users asking around.
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[19:25:11] <zultron> FWIW, I'm not asking anyone to support RH beyond merging whatever reasonable fixes I contribute.
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[23:30:16] <seb_kuzminsky> owhite: thanks for opening the bug ticket about the glade problem, it's less likely to get dropped that way
[23:31:09] <owhite> you got it - cradek made the suggestion. I really appreciate how hard everyone works on linuxcnc.
[23:33:28] <seb_kuzminsky> i wonder who among us knows anything about glade... norbert schechner maybe? or psha?
[23:33:55] <seb_kuzminsky> thank you for that nice comment - we try! (even if we don't always succeed)
[23:35:14] <skunkworks> doesn't gscreen use glade? so cmorley
[23:35:17] <seb_kuzminsky> looks like cmorley does a bunch of work with glade too
[23:35:20] <seb_kuzminsky> heh yeah
[23:35:22] <skunkworks> heh
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[23:44:09] <seb_kuzminsky> it would be cool if the bug tracker would report additions & changes here on irc, in addition to the mailing list
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