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[00:28:02] <linuxcnc-build> build #1303 of deb-lucid-rt-binary-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-lucid-rt-binary-i386/builds/1303 blamelist: Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>
[00:31:25] <alex_joni> seb_kuzminsky: nice
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[01:13:37] <cmorley> cradek: I wanted to see where my files and directories were being placed. It had nothing to do with docs, and docs take a ton of time to compile. To do a complete test I would fix everything else then build docs too.
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[01:14:08] <cmorley> I don't do it that often so if switches are hard it's not worth it.
[01:18:44] <cmorley> Thanks for looking into it seb_kuzminsky .
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[03:54:28] <seb_kuzminsky> cmorley: feel free to push test branches to the buildbot - it's handy for doing those kinds of builds (still takes a long time to run though)
[03:55:53] <cradek> that buildbot feature pleases me
[04:07:54] <seb_kuzminsky> zultron: what does /usr/lib/linuxcnc/ulapi-rtai-kernel.so do? it's the only thing (i think) linked to rtai's liblxrt, and our lucid rtai package is broken in such a way that it can't build the lucid linuxcnc deb :-(
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[04:08:29] <zultron> Good timing, just got the kid in bed.
[04:08:49] <zultron> That's the userland portion of RTAPI.
[04:09:00] <zultron> The hal libs link to it.
[04:09:37] <seb_kuzminsky> what does it use liblxrt for? (i'm too lazy to go look at the code at the moment)
[04:10:51] <zultron> Mmm, I don't know either! But there are rt-specific calls on the userland side for each flavor.
[04:11:02] <zultron> rt-system-specific
[04:12:26] <zultron> It needs rt_get_cpu_time_ns(), I guess.
[04:12:42] <zultron> Looks like the only ULAPI RTAI function.
[04:13:10] <seb_kuzminsky> sounds like we need to change that (boo!), or make new rtai packages for lucid (boo!) or drop lucid support in ubc (boo!)
[04:13:38] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm off, i'll think about it and let's talk about it later
[04:13:44] <zultron> Check out src/rtapi/rtai-kernel.c _rtapi_get_time_hook().
[04:13:52] <zultron> Lots of comments that agree with you.
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[04:17:59] <cmorley> seb_kuzminsky: i did push the branch to buildbot as a feature branch. (that is great) fixed some compile problems. The problem I missed was a runtime error with an installed version. Building a deb allows me to see what was missing. thanks for the buildbot!!
[04:19:01] <cmorley> Is there a way to walk the buildbot debs online to achieve the same thing?
[04:19:21] <cmorley> buildbot deb folders I mean
[04:19:41] <cradek> you can get to all of the buildbot debs
[04:19:55] <cradek> is that what you mean?
[04:20:06] <cradek> (I don't understand walk)
[04:20:54] <cmorley> for a feature branch?
[04:21:01] <cradek> http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/dists/lucid/scratch-rt/binary-i386/
[04:21:10] <cmorley> look through the files and folders
[04:21:10] <cradek> yeah they end up in "scratch" if they're not a known branch
[04:21:34] <cmorley> oh ok that's what I didn't understand - excellent
[04:21:46] <cradek> you'd have to download it and use dpkg -c to see what's in it
[04:22:12] <cradek> if you don't want to just install it, I mean
[04:23:23] <cmorley> oh ok. doing it on my own computer is more convenient - I'll have to see what is causing the error
[04:23:58] <cradek> yeah if you only need one architecture, local is convenient, but for testing them all you can't beat the buildbot
[04:25:46] <cmorley> I needed to see how an installed version's files were different from RIP. I didn't actually need the deb just the 'fake' installed file system
[04:26:13] <cmorley> anyways thanks for explanations.
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[13:46:05] <zultron> seb_kuzminsky, check out _rtapi_get_time() in rtapi_time.c. If you want to try fixing RTAI, just zap HAVE_RTAPI_GET_TIME_HOOK from rtai-kernel.h and _rtapi_get_time_hook() from rtai-kernel.c.
[13:46:42] <zultron> That will back rtapi_get_time() down to the default, which uses gettimeofday() instead. :)
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[16:06:09] <cradek> andypugh: did you ever get ANY useful input about your INT15 question?
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[16:15:45] <skunkworks> http://imagebin.org/287220
[16:16:00] <skunkworks> normally he takes pretty good pictures.. :)
[16:17:07] <archivist> hide his beer supply
[16:17:36] <skunkworks> he is not a drinker...
[16:18:27] <skunkworks> yet
[16:19:00] <archivist> I worked out you can have a lot of toys for the price of beer
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[16:32:31] <pcw_home> I think the OP gave up on the INT15 thing, I agree with whoever
[16:32:33] <pcw_home> suggested just finding the super-IO data sheet and poking at it directly
[16:35:10] <skunkworks> pcw_home, have you heard anyting from micges?
[16:35:20] <skunkworks> or is he still doing the father thing?
[16:35:22] <skunkworks> ;)
[16:36:41] <CaptHindsight> he was around yesterday
[16:37:35] <CaptHindsight> he said he was working on mesaflash until he got tied up :)
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[16:39:29] <CaptHindsight> getting a working kernel from scratch on the cubie only took an hour + waiting on our slow connection to kernel.org
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[16:40:57] <CaptHindsight> skunkworks: a new toy?
[16:41:23] <skunkworks> yes - a surplus place had it locally. Too cheap for dad to pass up.
[16:41:45] <CaptHindsight> nice is that the 1000?
[16:41:56] <CaptHindsight> do they have any more?
[16:42:37] <pcw_home> He's been busy:
[16:42:39] <pcw_home> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aopjsU7Q5V8
[16:42:48] <CaptHindsight> I'm keeping my eye for something with a faster spindle
[16:43:41] <skunkworks> CaptHindsight, mc-500v2
[16:43:59] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: stiching?
[16:44:29] <skunkworks> that is cool!
[16:45:15] <skunkworks> it controls the stiching as it slows down.
[16:45:30] <skunkworks> constant velocity stitching!
[16:46:24] <CaptHindsight> the cnc embroidery people used to complain about the poor quality of their machines
[16:51:38] <skunkworks> we think it has a 6k spindle
[16:52:20] <CaptHindsight> the matsuura, yes as i recall
[16:55:55] <seb_kuzminsky> zultron: i realize that you guys don't build & run debian packages from ubc, but do you build & run redhat packages (or other kinds of packages)? i'm seeing problems with non-run-in-place files
[16:56:18] <seb_kuzminsky> for example:
http://pastebin.ca/2553553
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[17:34:44] <zultron> Hey seb_kuzminsky, erm, I have RH packages, but haven't actually tried them. Packaging and non-RIP installs may not work.
[17:35:10] <zultron> I'll fix them, though, shouldn't be difficult.
[17:35:38] <zultron> Glad the bb package builders work! Thank for doing all that. Hard work.
[17:39:51] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb b31ffb0 06linuxcnc 10tcl/linuxcnc.tcl.in fix launcher script for new ubc substvars * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=b31ffb0
[17:40:10] <seb_kuzminsky> zultron: that fixes the launcher script for me
[17:40:59] <seb_kuzminsky> bbl
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[18:02:43] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb 75efce4 06linuxcnc 10src/Makefile Revert "install the "realtime" script in /etc/init.d, not /usr/bin" * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=75efce4
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[18:15:48] <andypugh> cradek: In the forum thread and privately, yes.
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[18:23:47] <cradek> ok good
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[18:48:36] <linuxcnc-build> build #17 of deb-precise-xenomai-binary-x86 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_1] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-precise-xenomai-binary-x86/builds/17 blamelist: Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>
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[18:48:36] <linuxcnc-build> build #17 of deb-precise-xenomai-binary-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_1] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-precise-xenomai-binary-amd64/builds/17 blamelist: Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>
[18:49:56] <linuxcnc-build> build #17 of deb-precise-rtpreempt-binary-x86 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_1] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-precise-rtpreempt-binary-x86/builds/17 blamelist: Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>
[18:50:03] <linuxcnc-build> build #17 of deb-precise-rtpreempt-binary-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_1] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-precise-rtpreempt-binary-amd64/builds/17 blamelist: Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>
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[19:37:00] <zultron> Hey seb_kuzminsky, I think 75efce4 looks like the right fix. 'realtime' isn't a real sysv init script that needs to be run at system boot. Thanks!
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http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-lucid-rt-binary-i386/builds/1305 blamelist: Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>
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[20:20:50] <andypugh> I have just run the Xenomai regreesion tests on the Udoo board :-)
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[20:22:03] <memleak> hello andypugh!
[20:22:13] <andypugh> Hai memleak
[20:22:44] <andypugh> You just missed my announcement. Linux udoo 3.0.35-Xenomai-g58cf7fe-dirty #13 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jan 17 03:26:53 UTC 2014 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
[20:23:19] <andypugh> (Do I need to run config again after the clean-up commit to get rid of -dirty?)
[20:23:23] <memleak> oh yeah? i just got 3.4.77 with preempt_rt on my cubieboard2! :P
[20:23:49] <andypugh> First to run LinuxCNC wins bragging rights :-)
[20:24:24] <memleak> i believe so
[20:24:32] <memleak> yeah exactly
[20:25:29] <memleak> note that preempt (non RT) will not work with linuxcnc
[20:26:15] <memleak> oh i didn't see the xenomai part in there, nevermind
[20:26:16] <memleak> im glad you got it going!
[20:27:38] <memleak> did my advise help at all?
[20:27:54] <memleak> (from our previous conversation)
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[20:28:21] <andypugh> I can't remember. It's been pretty intense
[20:28:41] <andypugh> I ended up cheating. There are two modules with commented-out functions
[20:29:18] <andypugh> The compiler errors were lying about where the problem was, quite heavily.
[20:29:49] <andypugh> I _think_ I know what the problem really is (functions declared in header file, not actuallly present in any source file)
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[20:30:26] <andypugh> But I decided to do without HDMI audio and/or fec ethernet to see how far I could get.
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[20:36:12] <memleak> is there a way to view CPU speed if dmesg and cat /proc/cpuinfo dont tell you?
[20:36:12] <memleak> nor lscpu
[20:36:12] <zultron> andypugh, WOW! Congratulations!
[20:36:12] <memleak> my allwinner a20 feels like its not running at full speed
[20:36:12] <zultron> Don't forget to submit the pre- and post-patches to the Xenomai folks. ;)
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[20:36:38] <andypugh> I can't figure out what I actually did :-)
[20:37:23] <zultron> Uh oh!
[20:37:28] <andypugh> And I have no idea how to push Xenomai to Udoo. My current kernel source has symlinks out to my own xenomai repository
[20:37:45] <andypugh> (In theory I can make patches from the git commits)
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[20:38:34] <zultron> Copy/mount the source tree to/on the Udoo and 'make install'?
[20:39:35] <zultron> Ah, at least git knows what you did. (whew!)
[20:39:37] <andypugh> I will work on packaging it when I am sure it works :-)
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[20:44:11] <memleak> symlinks however might mess up git diff / git commit, etc
[20:49:00] <andypugh> More to the point they will point to files that folk don't actually have.
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[21:29:31] <memleak> hooray, latency-test works on my cubieboard2 but when i try to launch the gui for linuxcnc i get an error saying "can't find package Img"
[21:30:42] <andypugh> I am still installing dependencies, so you are ahead of me
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[21:38:57] <memleak> 80us max latency with preempt_rt
[21:39:07] <memleak> too bad nothing else works :P
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[22:18:12] <PCW> I'm pretty sure I had the "can't find package Img" error lately (after a fresh pull of master)
[22:19:31] <memleak> i love when im not the only one with a problem i cant fix! thanks PCW!
[22:19:48] <memleak> do you remember what you did to fix it?
[22:20:13] <PCW> its was something simple like adding a TK or python image package
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[22:32:54] * memleak keeps on installing stuff
[22:36:43] <memleak> oh i see, tk packaged for archlinux arm isn't built with img support
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[22:56:45] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb 50f0f23 06linuxcnc 10debian/linuxcnc.files.in the realtime script moved to /usr/bin * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=50f0f23
[22:58:10] <andypugh> Hmmm.. gcc: error: -msoft-float and -mhard_float may not be used together
[22:58:11] <andypugh> make[3]: *** [/home/andypugh/git/linuxcnc-dev/src/objects/xenomai-kernel/3.0.43xeno/emc/kinematics/5axiskins.o] Error 1
[22:58:12] <andypugh> make[2]: *** [_module_/home/andypugh/git/linuxcnc-dev/src/objects/xenomai-kernel/3.0.43xeno] Error 2
[22:58:13] <andypugh> make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2
[22:59:30] <andypugh> (I am liking the - _ swap there.
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