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[00:24:54] <failsafe247> Hello, any libmodbus developers hanging out?
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[01:05:02] <KimK> failsafe247: Possibly, be patient, or, post your question and keep checking back.
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[01:08:48] <failsafe247> thanks Kim
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[01:09:56] <failsafe247> I wanna control my Hitachi wj200 VFD using a serial to RS485 adapter.
[01:10:18] <failsafe247> hich I already have all wired up nice and neat
[01:10:28] <failsafe247> I saw the wiki article. I also saw the libmodbus3 discussion
[01:10:39] <failsafe247> FYI, I am using the Xenomia preview3-merged-into-master version of linuxcnc. Therefore, it should be just like regular "master" branch
[01:10:49] <failsafe247> The version on the wiki probably does work, I just wanted to know if there were any "gotchas" I should know about before hand. Also, it seems there has been some recent develpoment around libmodbus3
[01:11:36] <failsafe247> So, I just wanted a quick rundown on the current state of the modbus lib?
[01:12:23] <failsafe247> I'll check back later. Otherwise, I'll try the directions posted on the wiki and report back if I have any problems
[01:15:54] <KimK> OK, sounds good.
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[17:55:45] <riz_> When reviewing the ini file I see parameters for INPUT_SCALE and OUTPUT_SCALE, but I am not seeing how linuxcnc uses these parameters. Are they ignored or d they get used by the GUI?
[17:58:44] <jepler> sim/servo_sim.hal:setp encoder_x.position-scale [AXIS_0]INPUT_SCALE
[17:59:04] <jepler> when a system is based on encoders, INPUT_SCALE is used by convention for the number of encoder counts per unit distance
[17:59:45] <jepler> some sample inifiles may have an INPUT_SCALE that is not actually used, because a very long time ago INPUT_SCALE was a required inifile item. This has not been the case for a very long time (before the first release of linuxcnc 2.0 almost certainly)
[18:00:38] <jepler> Similarly, on systems with voltage outputs for servo amplifiers, OUTPUT_SCALE is used by convention so that an output of 1 develops approximately 1 unit/sec velocity on the associated axis
[18:02:12] <riz_> Oh ok. So when you say unit/sec, how exactly do you set "unit"
[18:02:44] <jepler> [TRAJ]LINEAR_UNITS / [TRAJ]ANGULAR_UNITS
[18:04:08] <riz_> So, if I say metric for LINEAR_UNITS in the ini file that is 1 mm/sec outputed for velocity
[18:04:28] <riz_> for an output of 1
[18:05:53] <jepler> if you have [TRAJ]LINEAR_UNUTS = metric, then (among other things) the pins exported by motmod such as axis.0.motor-pos-cmd are in units of mm.
[18:06:53] <riz_> Ok. I think I was getting confused with typical servo amplifiers where you have to set your own user units based on gearing, etc.
[18:07:11] <jepler> (trivial typo in what I just said)
[18:09:35] <riz_> So what happens if I set to the parameter as metric in the ini file, but start my gcode file with a g20/21 command that specifies inches?
[18:10:45] <jepler> that's just fine. At some step the gcode units (controlled by G20/G21) are converted to [TRAJ] units
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[18:12:21] <jepler> (part programs should always specify G20 or G21 at the top rather than relying on being in the same units as the [TRAJ] units)
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[18:12:42] <riz_> Oh ok
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[18:35:33] <riz_> Is anyone developing a Qt GUI? I just started learning it and it seems like a powerful tool to make custom GUIs. Due to how complicated linuxcnc is and that I am just learning Qt though it would really help if anyone has some source code that I could base my GUI off of.
[18:36:58] <cradek> new work that you'd eventually want to contribute for inclusion with linuxcnc ought to use one of the toolkits that are already in use (and ideally don't require any new dependencies at all)
[18:37:21] <cradek> if it's work for yourself though, of course use whatever you want
[18:37:39] <riz_> What toolkits are you speaking of?
[18:37:57] <cradek> gtk/glade is the obvious one
[18:38:03] <riz_> And what new dependencies would Qt introduce? Sorry, I am a bit new
[18:38:17] <jepler> nothing in linuxcnc uses Qt yet
[18:38:20] <cradek> it would require all the qt libraries/runtime
[18:38:30] <riz_> Oh I understand
[18:39:03] <riz_> I saw someone who made a Qt GUI on the forum, but I am not sure if it is proprietary or the are sharing it
[18:42:57] <jepler> I don't think there's anything technically more difficult about writing a linuxcnc gui in qt compared to any other toolkit.
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[18:59:04] <riz_> Yeah, I didnt think so. Its just a matter of connecting the GUI pins to the controller pins
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[21:21:10] <andypugh> Yes, ArcEye has written a GUI in QT: http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/41-guis/25877-some-problems-of-building-a-new-gui-by-qt#26958
[21:22:52] <andypugh> Why do we have mux2, mux4, mux8 and mux16 all of which only take unsigned arguments? Would a mux-N component make sense, where a config string like 16b,8f,32u,64s would create four muxes, one for each data type?
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[22:00:47] <carper64_lb> well running the xenomai kernl on 12.04 with 5i20 ,7i47and 7i42ta with no major problems as yet
[22:01:53] <zultron> Fantastic!
[22:05:20] <carper64_lb> just thought id let you know he more cofigs that are run the more comes to light so that 3 permitations of different cards me and cncbasher have run on this setup with 2.6pre an not alot of problems
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[22:07:29] <carper64_lb> only problms is pncconfig error in lading the database for the cards and that was on all cards 5i20 5i25 and 7i43
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[22:10:03] <carper64_lb> but other than that everything works fine , fun starts tomorrow when i add the encoders to steppers
[22:10:51] <carper64_lb> hi andy nice vid on gear hobbing
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[22:14:43] <andypugh> carper64_lb: Did you see the new one on making a timing pulley? That's a much better setup.
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[22:29:38] <seb_kuzminsky> oh man i'm really excited to merge the rtos branch
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[22:57:04] <andypugh> I expect the rtos merge will require quite a lot of work on the "how to get" pages?
[23:01:18] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah i think you're right
[23:01:43] <seb_kuzminsky> and a lot of work on michael's part to clean up the history, and on everyone else's part to review it
[23:02:14] <seb_kuzminsky> "the first 80% of the job takes the first 80% of the time, and the last 20% of the job takes the second 80% of the time"
[23:10:27] <cradek> jwz says it's 90%
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