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[00:03:15] <alex_joni> andypugh: there is no private/public in c, but I'm sure you know that
[00:03:42] <andypugh> I am not sure I do know that.
[00:04:01] <alex_joni> well, at least not in a C++ way
[00:04:15] <alex_joni> but if FileB has access to a function definition
[00:04:21] <alex_joni> then the compiler is happy
[00:04:28] <alex_joni> no matter where the function is
[00:04:39] <andypugh> Yes. I am looking at it from another angle.
[00:04:40] <alex_joni> it's later at linking time when things go together
[00:05:12] <alex_joni> then probably I didn't get what you asked
[00:05:39] <andypugh> If I am looking at some code, trying to figure out the calling chain, can I tell if a particular function is callable from other files.
[00:06:06] <andypugh> I think the answer is "not without grepping all the 20 header files"
[00:06:25] <andypugh> And even then I can only tell if it could be, not if it is.
[00:07:21] <andypugh> I then have to search for the function name string in other files, and then check which header files they include, to be sure that they are calling the _same_ function called by that name?
[00:10:23] <andypugh> I guess I can start somewhere else, and see if the function name appears anywhere else in the same project, then worry about whether it is the same function, or just a function with the same name.
[00:10:24] <alex_joni> or use gdb
[00:10:55] <alex_joni> I don't think it's sane people who reuse function names in the same project ;)
[00:11:27] <andypugh> Yes, but this is LinuxCNC, they might not even have known that the function was used somewhere else.
[00:12:01] <alex_joni> heh
[00:12:17] <andypugh> I can't claim to have searched the code base to see if a function name was unused before choosing one.
[00:12:39] <alex_joni> right
[00:12:45] <alex_joni> so what are you looking for now?
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[00:14:53] <andypugh> Well, I was looking for load_tool, and I think I am now fairly sure that is a private function to ioControl.cc. But I was hoping not to spend quite as long on reload_tool_number and read_tool_inputs. I was, in fact, hoping to trace the calling chain into the next file tonight.
[00:15:38] <andypugh> I am trying to understand how tool geometry information flows through LinuxCNC, you see.
[00:15:55] <alex_joni> right
[00:16:54] <andypugh> Supposedly the tool table travels inside an NML message, but I haven't found where that happens.
[00:17:25] <alex_joni> let me see if I can find that quickly
[00:18:36] <andypugh> I decided to start at the functions that read the tool table file, and work forwards from there.
[00:19:13] <andypugh> Perhaps I would be better starting in (say) Axis backplot code and tracking backwards.
[00:19:34] <andypugh> I was trying to build a complete map of all code touched by the tool table.
[00:19:51] <alex_joni> there's a emctool.h
[00:20:41] <alex_joni> which defines a CANON_TOOL_TABLE struct
[00:20:53] <alex_joni> that struct is used in EMC_TOOL_STAT message
[00:20:57] <alex_joni> which gets passed around
[00:21:15] <alex_joni> http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=blob;f=src/emc/nml_intf/emc_nml.hh;h=d3aa69fd1ad8260805c920726574e9f16154d616;hb=HEAD#l1585
[00:22:12] <alex_joni> you would then want to grep for EMC_TOOL_STAT and you'll probably get a hit in ioControl.cc, in emctask/emctaskmain, in canon and probably in the GUIs
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[00:25:59] <andypugh> hmm, looks like I need to study C++ too then, as I have no idea what the "operator" command does.
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[00:26:19] <alex_joni> that's used usually to overload an operator
[00:26:27] <alex_joni> so you can do a = b +c
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[00:26:34] <alex_joni> even if a,b and c are not numbers
[00:27:09] <andypugh> So EMC_TOOL_STAT operator =(EMC_TOOL_STAT s) does what?
[00:27:12] <alex_joni> if you're talking about line 1581
[00:27:22] <alex_joni> defines the = operator for EMC_TOOL_STAT
[00:27:35] <andypugh> Ah, OK.
[00:27:49] <alex_joni> and says it takes an argument of type EMC_TOOL_STAT
[00:28:00] <alex_joni> so you can have EMC_TOOL_STAT p,q;
[00:28:03] <alex_joni> then p=q;
[00:28:21] <alex_joni> the actual code is in a .cc file
[00:29:09] <andypugh> Ah, yes, that is why it was making no sense (well, one reason at least). That's a header file. :-)
[00:29:38] <alex_joni> the code should be in emc.cc
[00:29:47] <alex_joni> but most likely not for the = part
[00:29:55] <alex_joni> that can come from one of the parent classes
[00:30:03] <alex_joni> as EMC_TOOL_STAT is derived from another class
[00:30:15] <andypugh> I think I may have bitten off significantly more than I can chew.
[00:31:12] <andypugh> I think that somone else (or nobody) is going to have to do this.
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[00:31:47] <andypugh> An actual programmer, for example.
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[00:34:24] <alex_joni> I can lend you my copy of Stroustrup ;)
[00:35:20] <andypugh> I can't even find which files #include emc_nml.hh. It looks like I would need to learn regexes just to find that out. (no files contain "#include emc_nml")
[00:36:26] <andypugh> (because I forgot the " mark, but that just makes my point).
[00:36:31] <alex_joni> just grep for emc_nml
[00:36:34] <alex_joni> should be enough
[00:36:38] <andypugh> And if anyone put an extra space in, then I am stuck
[00:36:47] <alex_joni> or emc_nml.hh
[00:38:09] <andypugh> I dont think it makes sense for me to do it when it is so hard for me, and probably so easy for someone else.
[00:38:18] <alex_joni> right
[00:40:13] <andypugh> How do proper coders trace these links though? Surely they aren't continually doing textual searches back and forth? Doesn't the linker make some sort of tree?
[00:41:13] <alex_joni> when I used to work on this, I searched when I had to find something
[00:41:27] <alex_joni> but usually these things make sense ;)
[00:41:42] <alex_joni> and they are kinda consistent
[00:41:54] <andypugh> Well, yes, the reason I wanted to do this is that the tool table does not make any sense
[00:43:43] <andypugh> files such as dummyemcstat which has the comment "keep linker happy" make me think that things could be more logically arranged.
[00:44:00] <alex_joni> heh
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[00:51:51] <alex_joni> did you take a look at doxygen docs?
[00:52:01] <alex_joni> we used to build them a long time ago
[00:52:14] <alex_joni> they generated a more interactive map of the c++ code
[00:54:42] <andypugh> Would I need to build them somehow?
[00:55:02] <alex_joni> I think you can just install doxygen and run it in the top src/ dri
[00:56:20] <andypugh> Hmm, looks like it might be worth a try
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[00:58:48] <alex_joni> can't locate a copy
[00:59:09] <andypugh> I am downloading the MacOS binary at this very moment.
[01:02:52] <andypugh> And it is now churning away at the source. This looks promising.
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[01:04:26] <andypugh> Ah, it really wanted GrahpViz to achieve what I asked..
[01:06:08] <alex_joni> yes
[01:06:30] <alex_joni> hmm.. I just found an old copy of emc compiled for windows :)
[01:06:33] <andypugh> But it looks like it can do what I wanted.
[01:06:55] <alex_joni> I found some old doxygen docs for emc1 if you want
[01:07:06] <andypugh> The HTML output looks like being a big help, even without Grapviz
[01:07:38] <andypugh> It looks like i can easily make LinuxCNC ones, which are likely to be more useful
[01:12:20] <alex_joni> great
[01:12:22] <alex_joni> [13:29] <jmkasunich> as far as I'm concerned, 2.0 kernels can be abandoned
[01:12:25] <alex_joni> [13:30] <alex_joni> I'm using a SuSE 9.0 install right now
[01:12:28] <alex_joni> [13:30] <jmkasunich> but 2.2, 2.4, and eventually 2.6 must be supported
[01:12:33] <alex_joni> heh, that really was a _long_ time ago
[01:13:24] <andypugh> http://imagebin.org/235498
[01:14:02] <andypugh> I think that is the tool I was looking for.
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[01:16:17] <andypugh> Is the output prettier than the EMC1 docs you have?
[01:16:39] <alex_joni> it's a more modern doxygen release
[01:16:49] <alex_joni> but its pretty much the same functionality
[01:16:56] <alex_joni> install graphviz, and it'll be much nicer
[01:17:16] <andypugh> I just did, and it's having another run
[01:18:54] <alex_joni> http://imagebin.org/235501
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[01:22:59] <andypugh> Despite me installing Graphviz, it isn't finding it.
[01:23:50] <andypugh> Trying the built-in diagram generator
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[01:47:58] <andypugh> OK, I guess I might not give up quite yet. But now it is time to sleep.
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[08:42:41] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05master 8244581 06emc2 10configs/sim/gscreen_custom/gscreen.glade 10src/emc/usr_intf/gscreen/gscreen.glade 10src/emc/usr_intf/gscreen/gscreen.py * gscreen -add ability to set the starting spindle rpm in manual mode
[08:42:41] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05master 9e1ff89 06emc2 10src/emc/usr_intf/gscreen/gscreen.py * gscreen -allow the handler to override internal signals
[08:42:46] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05master cfe9a82 06emc2 10configs/sim/gscreen_custom/ 10gscreen.glade 10gscreen_handler.py * gscreen config -add more customization example code
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[17:00:26] <kwallace> Let's say I clone a repository and start changing a file. In the mean time, the original file in the remote repository changes. If I "git pull" it replaces my local file. How can I keep my file both current to the remote and my edits?
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[17:06:51] <cradek> you are incorrect that it replaces your local file. what it does is cause a merge, which works if the changes are separate enough in the file, or creates a conflict that you must resolve manually if they are too close.
[17:17:20] <kwallace> The file I changed seemed to revert to the old configuration after the "git pull" so I guess there was too much overlap. Should I rename my file, "git pull" then block copy bits from my file to the new file? What happens when I want to update the remote?
[17:21:14] <cradek> I am not sure what to recommend because you must be mistaken about what happened. did you commit your changes before you pulled? if not, the pull would have failed. if so, you would have generated a merge.
[17:21:42] <cradek> you shouldn't do that renaming and stuff. git does the merging for you.
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[17:33:04] <kwallace> Thinking more, my local git knows when I change a file, but only if I run a git command. If I change a file, should I do an "add" to have git record the status? Then it will know that a pull needs to be merged?
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[17:34:00] <cradek> you should come to a coherent spot and make a commit before pulling
[17:34:29] <cradek> add is one of the (two) steps of making a commit
[17:38:49] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03TODO: deletor 05rtos-integration-preview1 24fb185 06emc2 04. * branch deleted
[17:38:58] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03TODO: deletor 05rtos-integration-preview1 24fb185 06emc2 04. * branch deleted
[17:39:04] <mhaberler> oops, sorry
[17:39:18] <cradek> ?
[17:39:32] <mhaberler> accidential push
[17:39:43] <mhaberler> arm port in progress..
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[17:40:06] <kwallace> Crud, I think I know what I did. I edited the file in the /usr/bin directory. The clone is in ~/source, dooh. I pulled, then ran the install script. Git merged the files in ~/source, install replaced my edited file.
[17:40:29] <cradek> aha
[17:40:42] <cradek> that sucks, but be happy that you're not crazy
[17:43:03] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03TODO: deletor 05rtos-integration-preview1 24fb185 06emc2 04. * branch deleted
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[17:43:15] <kwallace> Or, not crazier?
[17:43:16] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03TODO: deletor 05rtos-integration-preview1 24fb185 06emc2 04. * branch deleted
[17:44:26] <cradek> mhaberler: what are you doing?
[17:44:41] <mhaberler> a traffic accident
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[18:37:24] <awallin> I get this when trying to run the latest sim/axis_mm
http://pastebin.ca/2251023
[18:37:27] <awallin> feature or bug?
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[18:45:29] <andypugh> The first 4 lines are a feature, the others less so.
[18:48:46] <awallin> master is not as stable as it used to be...
[18:54:12] <awallin> and on the 2.5 branch I get "test for libgl1-mesa-dri workaround failed, please file a bug"
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[19:04:28] <awallin> huh did a fresh clone of the git repo and now that problem went away... go figure
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[19:30:57] <mhaberler> Running test: /home/pi/src/emc2-dev/tests/timedelay.0
[19:30:58] <mhaberler> Running test: /home/pi/src/emc2-dev/tests/usercomp.0
[19:30:59] <mhaberler> Runtest: 45 tests run, 45 successful, 0 failed + 0 expected
[19:31:00] <mhaberler> pi@raspberrypi ~/src/emc2-dev $
[19:31:13] <mhaberler> xenomai user RT threads
[19:37:12] <andypugh> Does that require drivers rewriting?
[19:45:22] <mhaberler> yes
[19:55:08] <alex_joni> mhaberler: nice
[19:58:56] <mhaberler> we'll see what shade of 'nice'… more a portability test
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[21:39:17] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05master ddf8ef5 06emc2 10src/emc/usr_intf/gscreen/gscreen.py * gscreen -make the mode selection button state the current mode
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[22:13:10] <mhaberler> re 'nice': HAL+RTAPI runs just fine on the raspberry; finding a working Python OpenGL package is an issue
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[22:16:25] <cncbasher> have you try'd PyOpengl 3.x
[22:17:43] <mhaberler> not sure I want to learn.. others will happily for me I guess
[22:18:30] <cncbasher> i thought opengl worked on a Pi
[22:20:31] <mhaberler> might well be
[22:20:49] <cncbasher> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=21244
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