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[00:21:09] <JT-Shop> http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/component/kunena/?func=view&catid=20&id=24948&limit=6&start=12
[00:21:21] <JT-Shop> any math wizards want to check this out
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[15:24:05] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03andy 05v2.5_branch 25c6948 06emc2 03docs/man/man9/lcd.9 10src/Makefile 10src/Makefile.inc.in 03src/hal/components/lcd.c * Add a component to drive LCD screens.
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[15:29:23] <cradek> that's sure colorful
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[15:32:37] <cradek> but .... it's the wrong message isn't it? looks like seb's push caused it.
[15:36:48] <cradek> aha
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[15:52:36] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05v2.5_branch f4e59d8 06emc2 10src/emc/rs274ngc/interp_o_word.cc * fix a harmless compile-time warning
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[18:16:43] <tissf> hi all
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[18:35:57] <andypugh> Hi
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[19:34:57] <skunkworks> cradek, question.. It seems coordinate rotation rotates where the tool tip is. Is this as expected? How would you rotate from a point away from the tool tip (otherwise you have to move to where you want to rotate from, rotate, then move to where you want to cut. (or am I just doing something stupid?)
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[19:37:59] <andypugh> G10 R?
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[19:38:10] <skunkworks> right
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[19:39:00] <cradek> I don't understand what you mean by "rotates where the tool tip is". it rotates around the system's origin.
[19:39:29] <cradek> just like when you change the origin, the "current" coordinates change when you do this
[19:39:33] <andypugh> Out of interest, machine origin or workspace origin?
[19:39:48] <andypugh> That answered the question.
[19:40:07] <cradek> each g5x system has its own offset and its own rotation
[19:40:43] <skunkworks> And it should rotate around the 0,0 of the current coordinate system? like g54?
[19:40:57] <skunkworks> then I am doing something wrong ;)
[19:41:05] <cradek> not current. the one you specify in the g10 command
[19:41:11] <cradek> say what you're doing
[19:41:55] <skunkworks> right - that is what I mean. g10l2p1rwhatever
[19:42:03] <skunkworks> so in this instance - g54
[19:42:05] <cradek> if you're at 1,1 and you do G10 ... R180, you'll now be at -1,-1
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[19:45:08] <skunkworks__> http://pastebin.com/yZ20JuEM
[19:45:24] <skunkworks__> the arc rotates around x1,y0
[19:46:53] <skunkworks__> http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=231419
[19:47:44] <skunkworks__> I thought it had something to do with an incremental arc. But I have to move from the arc start to 0,0 - then rotate the move back to 1,0
[19:48:14] <skunkworks__> which was unexpected (but I don't know if I am just thinking wrong.
[19:48:43] <cradek> I'm don't yet understand how what you expect differs from what you're getting
[19:49:17] <skunkworks__> I thought it would rotate around g54's 0,0
[19:49:43] <skunkworks__> g54's origin.
[19:52:37] <cradek> your arcs are all cut in g91, so they by definition always start at the current point
[19:53:06] <skunkworks__> ok - hold on
[19:53:08] <cradek> the current point never changes when you change the g5x offset or rotation
[19:53:14] <cradek> welll
[19:53:25] <cradek> the COORDINATE changes. the POSITION doesn't change (no axis motion occurs)
[19:53:30] <cradek> sorry, that was very unclear
[19:55:45] <cradek> this is a weird program but I'm pretty sure it's doing what I expect
[19:55:54] <skunkworks__> heh
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[19:57:18] <cradek> I added line 7:
http://pastebin.com/h3cSNuh2
[19:57:25] <cradek> maybe this is what you are trying to do?
[20:00:55] <skunkworks__> hmm that is confusing. ;) let me think about that
[20:02:28] <cradek> think of it just like changing the coordinate system offset - the tool doesn't move (with respect to the unoffset origin) - i.e. no axis motion occurs, but you get new current coordinates
[20:03:02] <cradek> so if you do g91 motion afterward, it'll be right from where you already were
[20:03:57] <cradek> now for extra credit, try to understand how polar coordinates work (remember you can specify radius, angle, or both)
[20:06:51] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03tissf 05v2.5_branch 78644a3 06emc2 10src/po/fr.po * French translation update
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[20:12:08] <cradek> tissf: yay!
[20:12:24] <tissf> :)
[20:15:48] <skunkworks__> ok - got it. (I changed too many things..) this is what I was trying to do
http://pastebin.com/XriijPCU
[20:15:59] <skunkworks__> your move is what rattled the marbles
[20:18:51] <skunkworks__> duh
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[20:27:49] <cradek> tissf: hmm, did you see seb's message? your commit has problems.
[20:28:39] <tissf> yes I look for solve that sorry
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[20:29:37] <skunkworks> cradek,
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/mach_mill/163769-help_g2_g3_arcs_during.html
[20:31:39] <cradek> haha you're just showing off that we don't have a particular mach bug?
[20:32:39] <skunkworks> maybe...
[20:32:41] <skunkworks> ;)
[20:32:52] <tissf> cradek: where is the seb message?
[20:32:59] <cradek> the emc-commit list
[20:33:48] <cradek> skunkworks: for the first five or ten minutes of implementing coordinate system rotation, you might not think of how it leads you to non-planar arcs
[20:34:14] <cradek> well five or ten seconds anyway
[20:34:17] <skunkworks> You did your home work ;)
[20:35:17] <cradek> yes and I'm not smug at all
[20:36:37] <skunkworks> heh - you deserve to be!!
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[20:40:51] <andypugh> Can I easily copy a git branch between machines?
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[20:41:59] <cradek> you could use a ssh remote and fetch/push from one to the other
[20:49:20] <andypugh> That's the sort of thing I had in mind
[20:51:24] <andypugh> I have two ssh windows open, one into each machine.
[20:51:53] <andypugh> (I feel like this should be a fox, a goose and a bag of grain)
[20:54:46] <andypugh> The interweb suggest using a patch.
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[21:05:35] <skunkworks> cradek, plus I don't think mach can loop and such.
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[22:04:45] <andypugh> Rats! I did a git clean and expunged a private comp.
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[22:15:01] <andypugh> I still have the .ko file. I wonder if that is safe?
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