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[00:15:06] <andypugh> Looks like gmail approximately doubles the spammer-rate.
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[00:16:10] <andypugh> I don't think that it is _that_ much more difficult to deal with, while they keep using stupid names. My feeling is that it is worth it to keep the genuine gmailers.
[00:20:23] <jthornton> it's a lot more than that
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[00:21:02] <jthornton> but with some help deleting them I'm ok with it
[00:22:35] <andypugh> If I am deleting 3 stupid names then deleting 12 isn't that much harder. Deleting probably works, I doubt we need to block.
[00:26:30] <jthornton> ok
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[00:26:43] <jthornton> do you want full unblock?
[00:29:30] <jthornton> I wish I knew what this does in touchy hwg = touchy(sys.argv[2])
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[00:32:47] <andypugh> JT-Shop: No. Actually, is there a way to block any name where the first 6 letters in both halves are the same?
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[20:28:38] <rogge> jepler: When was gremlin spun out of Axis and into its own .py file?
[20:28:59] <rogge> It looks like a lot of the code in Axis is duplicated in gremlin.py?
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[20:31:28] <psha> rogge: git tells me that 3 years ago (+6 days)
[20:31:58] <rogge> Wasn't that pre-GladeVCP? What was the impetus for bringing it out?
[20:33:26] <psha> that was
[20:33:43] <psha> later i've wrapped it with gladevcp widget
[20:34:01] <psha> as for motivation - that's question for jepler :)
[20:34:29] <psha> i've asked him year ago about it, probably something is in irc archives
[20:35:35] <rogge> Axis does some nice error handling with bad g code on file load - "Error near line xxx - radius differs..." etc/
[20:36:01] <rogge> I've modified gremlin.py to report similarly to stderr.
[20:36:08] <psha> gremlin is just for visualisation - it's not trying to replace whole axis
[20:36:13] <rogge> Any interest in such a patch to the sf tracker?
[20:37:45] <rogge> psha - Yes, just preview, but the error checking is in load_preview/gcode.parse
[20:38:48] <rogge> so it's gremlin that (if one wanted that nice bit of axis error checking) that one might put it.
[20:39:13] <psha> rogge: looks like feasable feature
[20:39:25] <psha> maybe you'll just post it to -dev list?
[20:39:27] <psha> for review?
[20:39:40] <rogge> Sure.
[20:40:22] <psha> also it would be great if error is logged not to stderr but feeded to callback
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[20:40:26] <psha> so it may be overriden
[20:40:58] <psha> err
[20:41:00] <psha> not callback
[20:41:03] <rogge> Which callback? Not very familiar with the gladevcp stuff
[20:41:05] <psha> just self.some_function
[20:41:49] <rogge> I suppose it's a matter of how the GUI writers prefer to get their info....
[20:41:52] <psha> a bit later here so sometimes i'm typing not same thing that want to
[20:42:01] <psha> yes
[20:42:06] <rogge> Jeff pops up a tk window with the info...
[20:42:15] <psha> so if you'll just hardcode print to stderr it would not be easy to override
[20:42:27] <rogge> I'm not sure Chris does anything with it in Touchy?
[20:42:35] <psha> yea, i see - have opened axis.py in console next to irc
[20:42:43] <psha> let me check
[20:43:47] <psha> no
[20:43:53] <psha> since there is no gremlin
[20:44:14] <psha> he just calls 'emccommand.progam_open()'
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[20:45:23] <rogge> yeah - I think I've only seen that type of error in axis.
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[20:50:56] <rogge> I'm very open to suggestions as to something other than stderr...
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[20:53:59] <rogge> Just not sure how better to flag it as an error to the folks in gui land, given that there's no acces to ERS in the interpreter C code
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[20:54:57] <rogge> I'll send it to the list and ask for some input there.
[20:55:25] <psha> just call self.report_gcode_error(file, line, errstr)
[20:55:33] <psha> and define it as stderr pint
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[20:55:53] <psha> then if somebody need to extend it - he'll replace function in derived class with something new
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[20:57:28] <psha> for hal_gremlin i'll add signal invocation
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[21:00:53] <rogge> psha - that sounds good. Will do.
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[21:21:02] <rogge> JT-Shop - very nice work on those tutorials.
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