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[10:58:29] <jthornton> andypugh, I've noticed since the CIA started working that user conformations started working
[11:00:46] <jthornton> congratulations skunkworks__
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[11:19:56] <CIA-62> 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * r75ce252f182c 10/docs/src/gui/touchy.txt: Docs: fix malformed anchor
[11:19:57] <CIA-62> 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * r531db1b9320b 10/docs/src/common/GPLD_Copyright.txt: Docs: re-branding and copyright update
[11:19:58] <CIA-62> 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * r744c0da304f2 10/docs/src/common/Getting_EMC.txt: Docs: update livecd file name and md5sum
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[11:57:22] <andypugh> jthornton: CIA?
[11:58:20] <andypugh> Also, I manually confirmed 4 or 5 folk in the last few days after a private email exchange.
[11:58:57] <jthornton> yea when you commit as above CIA-62
[11:59:44] <jthornton> it's not been working for a while then started working yesterday iirc
[11:59:59] <andypugh> I have been working abroad, so hadn't noticed.
[12:00:37] <jthornton> I noticed you were absent from here
[12:01:55] <jthornton> I don't know if it was a fluke or not but since then when a new user registered the conformation showed up almost at once
[12:02:10] <jthornton> care to do a testywesty again?
[12:10:01] <andypugh> The moderator email is instant. I am still wondering if some ISPs are blocking LinuxCNC due to old blacklists or Cialis ads.
[12:10:25] <andypugh> (no sign of the confirmation email being anything like as swift)
[12:11:09] <jthornton> last couple I saw as fast as they showed up they were confirmed like it was instant
[12:11:43] <andypugh> I think it might depend on ISP. SOme do server-side blocking pre-delivery
[12:12:40] <jthornton> that's why it might be interesting if you registered again to see if something has changed
[12:12:46] <andypugh> I might try another test using a different address later.
[12:13:14] <jthornton> for days no conformations and since CIA-62 is running they are instant
[12:13:43] <andypugh> Androgenes Pughicus is still waiting for his confirmation email :-)
[12:14:20] <jthornton> I see he just showed up
[12:15:19] <jthornton> I've not got a new user e-mail yet on him
[12:15:48] <jthornton> here it is now
[12:17:01] <andypugh> I need to head out and try to rescue my bike.
[12:17:09] <andypugh> Back later, hopefully.
[12:17:51] <jthornton> ok
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[21:08:06] <bpuk> some wierd arc bugs still to resolve... but making progress on G71
[21:08:07] <bpuk> http://www.bpuk.org/linuxcnc/g71_finish_allowances.png
[21:08:31] <bpuk> (self-inflicted arc bugs, not bugs in existing code)
[21:13:15] <bpuk> and 30 seconds after saying that I realised where the mistake was
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[22:00:54] <cradek> yay!! that looks great
[22:02:42] <bpuk> just working a couple more annoying bugs out atm
[22:03:09] <bpuk> would it be OK if I post a patch for review soon - knowing that it's incomplete and non-robust
[22:03:45] <cradek> that is always ok!
[22:04:20] <bpuk> heh, good to know - as I said, it'll be incomplete - but should allow more testing + comments on style etc so... yeah
[22:05:35] <bpuk> the ironic thing is that to get G70 working I'll need about 10 lines of code :P
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[22:16:36] <cradek> yep getting feedback early is often a good thing
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[22:27:09] <bpuk> http://www.bpuk.org/linuxcnc/g71-patch-0-initial-feedback.diff
[22:27:38] <bpuk> quite a few known issues yet, but... it mostly works for OD turning
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[22:30:24] <bpuk> oops, lathe.ini shouldn't be in that diff
[23:04:13] <andypugh> Using N-words to define a block?
[23:04:29] <andypugh> (I guess that, actually, they are spare after all)
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[23:08:14] <bpuk> strictly, only the first and last block need to be defined by N words - but, yes
[23:09:59] <andypugh> Ah, P and Q? I was wondering how we could define the block, I never thought of using N.
[23:10:21] <bpuk> that's the one
[23:10:33] <bpuk> my notes say:
[23:10:46] <bpuk> P Block Number of contour beginning
[23:10:46] <bpuk> Q Block number of contour end
[23:10:46] <bpuk> D Roughing Depth per move
[23:10:46] <bpuk> R Retraction from each cut
[23:10:46] <bpuk> J Overthickness for finishing at X (diameter) (U on other controls)
[23:10:46] <bpuk> L Overthickness for finishing at Z (W on other controls)
[23:10:46] <bpuk> I Thickness for finishing at X
[23:10:47] <bpuk> K Thickness for finishing at Z
[23:10:47] <bpuk> F Feedrate override between P and Q blocks
[23:10:48] <bpuk> S Spindle speed override between P and Q blocks
[23:10:48] <bpuk> T Tool override between P and Q blocks
[23:13:47] <bpuk> slight update and test files
[23:13:50] <andypugh> Does the block get run as the finishing pass, or skipped? I am not sure if that is even a meaningful question.
[23:13:52] <bpuk> http://www.bpuk.org/linuxcnc/g71-patch-1-initial-feedback-mod.diff
[23:13:57] <bpuk> http://www.bpuk.org/linuxcnc/test.ngc
[23:14:01] <bpuk> http://www.bpuk.org/linuxcnc/test2.ngc
[23:14:52] <bpuk> gets skipped - I originally planned to run it as a finishing pass, but since the first block (G0/G1) defines the behaviour of the retract mvoes it seems better to skip it
[23:15:13] <andypugh> But I guess that the G71 runs the offset moves, then the normal interpreter runs the finish pass?
[23:15:17] <bpuk> the only thing I'm not sure about is what happens when something else is defined before the profile
[23:16:02] <bpuk> the way I'd program it would be G71 P1 Qx ... N1 -> Nx G70 P1 Qx
[23:16:24] <bpuk> but that's something I needed input on - can be changed fairly easily to work either way
[23:17:50] <andypugh> I have a vague feeling that normal behaviour should be resumed after the G71 line, but I have only given it 2 seconds thought, so it is more a hunch than a considered opinion.
[23:19:00] <bpuk> that was my original thought too - it's only 6 lines to remove if that's the 'correct' behaviour. The only problem is the N1 G0 to enable rapids.
[23:21:01] <andypugh> It might be interesting to canvas opinion on the mailing lists.
[23:21:26] <bpuk> never thought of that
[23:21:38] <bpuk> I used
http://www.cnccookbook.com/CCCNCGCodeG71RoughTurning.htm as my rough guide to what is expected
[23:22:01] <bpuk> so my assumptions come from there - and from what seemed 'normal' when writing the code :P
[23:27:14] <bpuk> but I'll ask on the mailing list about where to continue from - When I placed the profile blocks after M2 it fails to find the profile - so I would need to look at that too
[23:27:24] <bpuk> any other comments? :D
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[23:47:35] <andypugh> I will give it some thought, but it's getting pretty late here.
[23:48:25] <bpuk> Aye, it is :P
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