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[00:11:08] <KimK> skunkworks__: No, *who's* on first.
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[00:23:19] <skunkworks__> KimK: sorry - dense tonight - what?
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[00:37:41] <KimK> skunkworks__: Oh, no problem, just having some fun. Nothing important. Earlier today (around lunchtime?) you said "what?", and it had only scrolled up a few lines by now, nobody said anything since. So I'm just going from "what?" to "who?". Gotta have fun where you can find it.
[00:42:19] <skunkworks__> heh - ok. I log out and log in to different irc clients so I don't have constant history
[00:42:21] <skunkworks__> :)
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[12:58:43] <jthornton> http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/component/kunena/?func=view&catid=38&id=22980&limit=6
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[13:39:58] <cradek> jthornton: I looked through the diffs and can't find a possible cause. anxiously awaiting independent confirmation.
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[14:56:17] <jthornton> just got back from riding my mountain bike let me see if he uploaded the rest of his files
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[14:57:09] <cradek> huh, the 10.04-linuxcnc2 cd has the correct thing in sources.list when booted live, but when you install, it messes it up
[14:57:59] <cradek> that's obnoxious
[15:22:27] <cradek> are there any other problems with our cd? I think I've fixed the sources.list line being wrong, and the nuking our kernel on large-memory machines
[15:30:45] <JT-Shop> that was the only two things I knew of and forgot
[15:32:37] <JT-Shop> so far the guy with the upgrade problem said that creating a new ini solved his problem... he must have to translate each word to English so his answers are short and confusing
[15:33:41] <cradek> ok, that makes no sense, so I suspect shenanigans
[15:34:08] <JT-Shop> me too
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[15:42:38] <cradek> qemu: at most 2047 MB RAM can be simulated
[15:43:07] <cradek> darn, can't test it so easily
[15:43:26] <cradek> would someone please buy and send me a new laptop with 4+ GB of RAM?
[15:44:04] <cradek> I'd also like to test on very high resolution screens
[15:44:20] <cradek> and SSDs
[15:48:09] <JT-Shop> does the laptop have to work?
[15:49:09] <skunkworks> I really like my xps with only 1080i screen. (if it wasn't so big...)
[15:49:40] <skunkworks> where did the I come from.. 1080
[15:49:59] * skunkworks wonders what is being discussed...
[15:50:04] <skunkworks> logger[psha],
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[16:12:36] <cradek> yay, sources.list problem is fixed
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[16:20:22] <skunkworks> yay
[16:22:41] <jthornton> Yea!
[16:22:57] <cradek> the updates worked
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[16:23:32] <cradek> not so easy to test the kernel replacement problem, but I'm pretty sure I nailed it.
[16:23:51] <jthornton> I can test it
[16:24:04] <cradek> thanks, I'll start the upload
[16:24:09] <jthornton> ok
[16:26:22] <cradek> looks like .5 to 1 hr
[16:26:35] <cradek> time for a coffee run
[16:32:21] <jepler> cradek: did you also look at the software sources after installation problem?
[16:37:07] * JT-Shop runs to town for a bit
[16:49:08] <cradek> jepler: yes, fixed and tested
[16:49:46] <jepler> oh I see you lead off with saying that
[16:49:49] <jepler> I should learn to read
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[16:51:43] <cradek> np
[16:52:27] <jepler> it looks like if only you had a 64-bit host OS you might be able to simulate >2GB
[16:52:47] <jepler> maybe you have to also specify -no-kvm and take the speed hit; not sure
[16:53:14] <jepler> you don't have a spare 8GB machine?
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[16:56:23] <cradek> hahah
[16:56:32] <cradek> umm no.
[16:57:11] <jepler> well, actually, me either
[16:57:48] <jepler> 'qemu -m 4000' does start on my 64-bit 10.04 machine
[16:57:52] <cradek> I don't have _any_ 8GB machine...
[16:58:27] <cradek> hm, I don't think I have a 64bit install anywhere either.
[16:58:42] <cradek> the upload won't take long. no big deal.
[16:59:48] <jepler> dangit, now you have me pricing beefy desktop systems again
[17:01:08] <cradek> now we're debating the language of the new interp of the newly rewritten linuxcnc3 with a new license because someone wants to use a gpl3 library
[17:02:08] <jepler> hmm is it a bad sign if you are suggested to buy a contactless (IR) thermometer to go with this CPU?
[17:02:15] <cradek> ymbc
[17:02:40] <jepler> save $25 on the combination!
[17:02:47] <cradek> jepler: stop and have lunch for a distraction
[17:02:59] <jepler> ooh good idea
[17:03:04] <cradek> I'm at meadpwlark fwiw
[17:03:13] <jepler> we're just going to go across the street
[17:03:28] <cradek> aha
[17:03:40] <jepler> bbl
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[17:44:32] <cradek> http://linuxcnc.org/iso/ubuntu-10.04-linuxcnc3-i386.iso
[17:44:49] <cradek> if someone could test the install on a 4GB+ RAM machine I'd appreciate it
[17:45:08] <cradek> md5sum is 76dc2416b917679b71255e464ede84ec
[17:48:35] <skunkworks> can it be exactly 4?
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[17:54:55] <cradek> yes I think that'll do it
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[19:23:41] <jthornton> downloading now
[19:24:24] <jthornton> I should be able to install that side by side with my current install right?
[19:27:39] <cradek> welll I haven't tried that
[19:27:46] <cradek> is skunkworks testing it? if so you don't need to
[19:28:33] <jthornton> I don't know if skunkworks is or not
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[19:47:07] <skunkworks> I downlaoded it and am trying to get a machine together... It might not be until tomorrow.
[19:47:41] <cradek> it's no emergency, thanks for doing it
[19:49:28] <jthornton> I'm burning a CD now and will test in a bit on the original machine that gave me a fit with the memory issue
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[20:02:52] <jepler> and I'm trying it in a virtual machine with 4100 megs RAM
[20:05:08] <cradek> thanks guys
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[20:19:29] <jepler> somehow I expected this to go quickly. I was wrong.
[20:20:49] <jepler> ooohhhh I thought this system had 8GB (so that 4.1GB in a qemu guest was not crazy) .. but the host is only 4GB. so I think I'm hitting swap pretty hard.
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[20:29:22] <cradek> ouch
[20:31:25] <JT-Shop> cradek, thanks for making me fix my dvd drive
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[20:45:17] <jepler> after install, uname -a is ... 2.6.32-122-rtai
[20:45:23] <jepler> so I think my test gives the desired result
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[20:47:32] <cradek> awesome
[20:47:54] <cradek> only other test I can think of is to run the updates and make sure you get 2.5.1 - but like I said I tested that part.
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[20:58:27] <skunkworks> cradek, so the cd will have 2.5 initally - not 2.5.1?
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[21:09:33] <JT-Shop> cradek, every thing looks good to me, checked package names and ran the latency test as well
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[21:16:32] <cradek> skunkworks: yes, I didn't install updates
[21:17:04] <cradek> I'm purposely hostile to people who want to download and install a whole OS instead of running the updates
[21:17:31] <cradek> also, the whole mess currently fits on a CD and you never know what'll break that
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[21:41:18] <JT-Shop> do you want me to update the link on the download page?
[21:42:11] <cradek> yes please!
[21:43:09] <alex_joni> should I mirror it?
[21:43:32] <cradek> yes, there's no reason for people to download -2 anymore
[21:43:42] <alex_joni> cool
[21:45:01] <alex_joni> hmm... going well ;)
[21:45:56] <JT-Shop> done
[21:46:28] <alex_joni> Downloaded 693.2 megabytes in 1:27 seconds. (8114.39 KB/s)
[21:46:31] <JT-Shop> and the wiki link is to the install page so that is automagic
[21:46:37] <JT-Shop> :P
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[21:47:04] <alex_joni> 76dc2416b917679b71255e464ede84ec ubuntu-10.04-linuxcnc3-i386.iso ?
[21:47:18] <alex_joni> seems to match
[21:47:44] <JT-Shop> yikes I forgot to change that
[21:50:02] <cradek> yes 76dc is right
[21:50:42] <JT-Shop> done
[21:51:20] <JT-Shop> and my fresh install just prompted me to upgrade to 2.5.1
[21:56:40] <alex_joni> cradek: thanks for working on it
[21:56:55] <cradek> welcome
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[22:44:16] <cradek> JT-Shop: I was going to point to your instructions for fixing the apt repo specification at
http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/component/kunena/?func=view&catid=9&id=20885 but that has been replaced by a new post that does not contain the instructions and screenshot that I remember
[22:44:23] <cradek> is that information gone?
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