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[09:05:53] <psha[work]> logger[psha]: sit here and listen!!11
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[09:14:07] <mhaberler> psha: you're supposed to throw him a sausage now
[09:19:01] <psha[work]> no way, i've only one and that's for me
[09:19:11] <psha[work]> however
[09:19:26] * psha[work] cuts sausage into three parts and gives one small to the bot
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[09:25:15] <mhaberler> the canonical dogfood for such purposes is called 'Knackwurst' here (aka "the bureaucrat's trout"):
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pNMEZjvwLqI/T73U8ybruII/AAAAAAAAPw4/W8JqoQTB0X8/s1600/knackwurst.jpg
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[11:30:20] <mhaberler> licensing q: I consider zeromq (
http://www.zeromq.org/area:faq#toc0) as candidate for linuxcnc.org which is GPLv2 only (right?). I assume I am stuck with 'not license compatible' in column 1, row 6 of
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#AllCompatibility - correct? or am I overlooking something?
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[12:27:05] <alex_joni> mhaberler: now I'm hungry :/
[12:30:58] <jthornton> alex_joni, there is a 400 error for the FAQ page on the website
[12:31:03] <jthornton> 404
[12:31:27] <jthornton> http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/component/xfaq/
[12:31:46] <jthornton> I can't seem to figure what is wrong from my level
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[12:57:13] <mhaberler> jees, my christmas wish would be a link-checker for linuxcnc.org (yes, a cron job - this is so embarrassing)
[12:57:57] <jthornton> LOL
[13:11:15] <cradek> mhaberler: which LGPL version are they using?
[13:12:35] <mhaberler> http://www.zeromq.org/area:licensing
[13:13:05] <cradek> got the source - looks like dual GPL3/LGPL3
[13:13:19] <cradek> so you are correct that you can not combine it with linuxcnc and distribute the result
[13:13:48] <mhaberler> here it says LGLPv3+ :
http://www.zeromq.org/intro:get-the-software
[13:15:09] <cradek> you are right - in a random source file it says LGPL 3 or later
[13:15:22] <alex_joni> jthornton: my bet is that for the newer joomla the component for FAQ is not called xfaq anymore
[13:15:56] <cradek> so you are in the very lower left corner of that grid, and answer is no
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[13:17:14] <cradek> sorry :-/
[13:18:16] <mhaberler> out of curiosity - what impact then has it if some parts are 'gplv2 or later'? the whole thing is still restricted by gplv2only, I guess
[13:19:13] <alex_joni> mhaberler: if some files are gplv2 and some are gplv2 or later, then the overall would be gplv2
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[13:19:21] <alex_joni> at least that's how I understand it
[13:19:39] <alex_joni> if all files are gplv2 or later, then you can treat the whole as v2 or later
[13:20:36] <mhaberler> well that's what I assumed, my question was: what is the point of having some files gplv2+ if the whole thing is still infected
[13:22:05] <cradek> yes my understanding is the most restrictive part has to rule the day
[13:22:08] <alex_joni> there is no point
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[13:22:24] <alex_joni> when someone creates a new file they are free to chose their license
[13:22:59] <cradek> bbl
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[13:48:35] <mhaberler> and the next-best replacemnet
http://www.crossroads.io/dev:legal is lpglv3, too :-/
[13:49:04] <mhaberler> man, licensing is a howitzer to shoot your leg off
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[14:24:30] <jepler> I write gplv2+ in the license statement of my files because I would like it to be possible for someone to take that file (as opposed to the whole of linuxcnc) and use it in a gpl3 project.
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[14:25:22] <jepler> if someday we discovered that everything but xemc had grown gplv2+ license statements then we could just remove xemc and become a gpl3 project if we wanted
[14:25:25] <jepler> (I admit that's unlikely)
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[15:03:30] <mhaberler> interesting - well my angle is really for smaller projects maximum use by others, and reuse from other sources goes over retentive licensing as far as my code is concerned - others may feel differenly about it
[15:04:35] <mhaberler> otoh - which core parts are gplv2only encumbered - is that a 'read the source' thing or is there a some delineation by parts?
[15:04:57] <cradek> pretty sure you'd have to check file by file
[15:10:09] <mhaberler> well, src/rtapi alone sports four different flavors of GPL...
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[16:36:25] <JT-Shop> cradek, do you still want me to update the changelog?
[16:39:22] <cradek> no, you can just leave it, forget I said anything about it
[16:39:34] <cradek> I'll go through the changes at release time like always
[16:41:05] <JT-Shop> ok
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