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[02:02:47] <SWPadnos> hi skunkworks__. I was in Germany, then Japan. Now I'm home for almost 2 weeks (!).
[02:02:51] <SWPadnos> hignt
[02:02:53] <SWPadnos> err
[02:02:55] <SWPadnos> night
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[02:03:50] <skunkworks__> Hey!
[02:04:04] <skunkworks__> Sounds like fun?
[02:04:27] <SWPadnos> partly
[02:04:39] <SWPadnos> I went to Germany for my nephew's high school graduation.
[02:04:54] <SWPadnos> then I went to Japan (~6 hours after arriving home) for work
[02:13:55] <skunkworks__> yikes. sleep much?
[02:14:03] <SWPadnos> not really
[02:14:17] <SWPadnos> I was supposed to have 11 hours here, which would have allowed some time to sleep
[02:14:32] <SWPadnos> unfortunately, Lufthansa wouldn't let me carry on my bag, and then they lost it
[02:15:12] <SWPadnos> by the time I found out that the bag was lost, I had missed my connection, so I sat at Dulles airport for 5 extra hours, and got to Burlington at midnight-ish
[02:15:28] <SWPadnos> at which time I had to go collect some equipment from a customer, find another bag, and pack
[02:15:40] <SWPadnos> then sleep (ha), and get to the airport for a 5:40 AM flight on Sunday
[02:15:58] <SWPadnos> so it didn't work out so well in the rest category
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[02:17:51] <skunkworks__> again - yikes
[02:18:13] <SWPadnos> then the AC didn't work in the hotel in Tokyo :)
[02:18:49] <SWPadnos> (well, it worked as designed, but that meant that it would shut off about 2 hours after turning it on, which meant that I would wake up every morning at about 4 AM when the room got hot)
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[19:25:14] <andypugh> Can I change halcmd to make it more consistent?
[19:28:24] <cradek> what problem are you wanting to solve?
[19:29:29] <cradek> I ask mostly because we sadly have programs that parse halcmd output
[19:29:41] <andypugh> I am too lazy to always convert U32 pins/params out of hex.
[19:30:18] <andypugh> Do you know which version of the outtput they use?
[19:30:20] <cradek> where/how are u32 used that decimal makes the most sense?
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[19:30:34] <andypugh> HAL pins, in general, I think.
[19:30:34] <cradek> no of course not, I just know to tread lightly :-)
[19:30:55] <cradek> sorry, not a clear question. what kind of data is presented that way?
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[19:31:17] <cradek> obviously not positions or tuning or other similar types of data
[19:31:52] <andypugh> I am not entirely sure which pins are U32 in HAL. S32 is usd for encoder counts (and presented in decimal)
[19:32:04] <cradek> yes that's kind of what I'm getting at
[19:32:23] <andypugh> Most engineering units are float
[19:32:26] <cradek> unsigned seems like it would be an unusual type for user-consumable data
[19:32:28] <cradek> yes
[19:32:58] <cradek> if u32 is mostly used for bit type data, then hex makes the most sense, and I bet that's why it's this way
[19:33:21] <andypugh> True, but it seems odd that the formattted-data output presents U32 as hex, but the unformatted as decimal.
[19:34:08] <andypugh> compare hal/utils/halcmd_commands lines 2253 and 2286
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[19:34:58] <cradek> is there still script mode and normal mode?
[19:35:40] <andypugh> I am assuming that that is the difference bwtween data_value and data_value2
[19:36:04] <cradek> I'm squinting at 378ba026
[19:36:05] <andypugh> But it seems like the one without the formatting spaces would be the script mode. And that presents u32 as decimal
[19:36:57] <cradek> what kind of data do you have on a u32 that you are routinely having to convert to decimal?
[19:36:59] <andypugh> Is that a git commit?
[19:37:05] <cradek> yes
[19:38:52] <andypugh> http://pastebin.com/h9c1DQQz
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[19:39:45] <cradek> what are all those nv things?
[19:39:57] <andypugh> nvram data from the 8i20
[19:40:13] <andypugh> on-board settings for sserial remotes
[19:40:39] <andypugh> So, arguably they are hex, but they represent scaled engineering units
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[19:41:11] <andypugh> I just know by now that 2EE is 7.5Amps
[19:41:11] <cradek> :-/
[19:41:52] <cradek> well then for that one it's easy for me to see that u32 is the wrong type of pin
[19:42:07] <andypugh> Yes, but no.
[19:42:27] <andypugh> It's a chip register.
[19:43:02] <cradek> unsigned deciamps
[19:43:31] <cradek> er centiamps
[19:43:43] <andypugh> To be honest my issue is not that I can't see my units in my preferred base, but that the same pins are represented in two different ways by subtly different parts of the code
[19:44:00] <andypugh> (And I am failing to find that commit)
[19:44:29] <cradek> I think the split is human-consumable vs script-consumable and my opinion is that it's entirely reasonable for those to be different formats
[19:44:53] <andypugh> OK, I found the commit now
[19:45:03] <cradek> do share
[19:45:18] <andypugh> I mean I found the one you gave
[19:45:24] <cradek> oh
[19:46:34] <andypugh> OK, so JK thought that the human-readable version should be hex? Is he a geek, do you think?
[19:47:06] <cradek> if it usually represents something that's bitwise, he's correct, whether he's a geek or not
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[19:49:00] <cradek> although when I run sim, there are three u32 pins, and none of them are anything but genuine integers
[19:49:03] <andypugh> Well, it's not that simple:
http://pastebin.com/SkrZCK4P
[19:49:43] <cradek> brb, coffee emergency
[19:50:54] <skunkworks-> Mmmm coffee
[19:51:00] <andypugh> Good plan
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[19:58:39] <andypugh> For extra confusion I am not sure that halrun -s even works
[19:59:36] <andypugh> Ah, halcmd -s does, though.
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[20:57:39] <micges> RTAI 3.9 finally released!
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[21:07:23] <andypugh> Sounds good. Let's hope it works
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