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[00:18:14] <andypugh> Is anyone here?
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[00:19:32] <andypugh> The UART thing. I just realised that I can use the names= built-in thing in comp to give the pins and uarts meaningful names. The drawback is that the functions get the same names. I can't decide whether that is good or bad.
[00:21:06] <andypugh> Currenlty loadrt mesa_uart uart_names=hm2_5i23.0.uart.0, hm2_5i23.0.uart.7 gives you functions and pins mesa_uart.0… and mesa_uart.1….
[00:23:09] <andypugh> If I drop uart_names and use names= then the functions and pins all become hm2_5i23.uart.0… and hm2_5i23.7…. I am of the opinion that this is better (and it makes the basically useless sampl .comp file simpler).
[00:23:29] <andypugh> Should I change it?
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[13:59:02] <alex_joni> cradek: nice idea of a clock: http://old.ethersex.de/images/2/20/Habo_bulbdial_clock.jpg
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[14:09:00] <CIA-68> 03jepler 07v2.5_branch * r4f06e434b9a0 10/docs/src/gcode/overview.txt: docs: fix #-marks in overview.txt
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[14:28:20] <IchGuckLive> hi all Jepler here ? i got segfaults on the real XYUV Foam starting axis-foam the real mashine is running but only liveplot to .01mm height not as expected from XY to UV the planes are perfectly aligned
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[15:14:55] <skunkworks> http://boingboing.net/2012/05/31/lockdown-freeopen-os-maker-p.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter\
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[15:21:08] <IchGuckLive> skunkworks: whats dat for
[15:30:13] <IchGuckLive> why does this not work ?
[15:30:30] <IchGuckLive> root_window.bind("<KP_4>", lambda event: jog_on(6, -get_jog_speed(3)))
[15:30:32] <IchGuckLive> root_window.bind("<KP_6>", lambda eevent: jog_on(6, get_jog_speed(3)))
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[15:30:33] <IchGuckLive> root_window.bind("<KeyRelease-KP_4>", lambda event: jog_off(6))
[15:30:35] <IchGuckLive> root_window.bind("<KeyRelease-KP_6>", lambda event: jog_off(6))
[15:31:25] <IchGuckLive> it is jogging axis 0 'X' insted of 6 'U'
[15:32:43] <IchGuckLive> if i go for semicolon key and colon it works fine
[15:33:05] <IchGuckLive> is there somthing outside axis that need to be changed
[15:35:45] <IchGuckLive> GOT IT line 3000 B)
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[20:52:37] <Diony> Hi all
[20:53:45] <micges> hi
[20:53:56] <Diony> I think there is a problem with tool offset parameters #5401 to 5409
[20:54:33] <Diony> This parameters show the tool table offset of the tool not the current offsets
[20:55:20] <Diony> I am using fresh git realease 2.6
[20:57:40] <skunkworks> what are you thinking it is? I would think it would be the data right from the tool table for the loaded tool.
[20:58:50] <Diony> The current tool table used for compensation. The "tool_offset" line of the status windows of linuxcnc
[20:58:58] <skunkworks> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.5/html/gcode/overview.html#_numbered_parameters_a_id_sub_numbered_parameters_a
[20:59:35] <Diony> if you make a G43.1 Z10 the current tool z offset wil be change to 10
[20:59:50] <Diony> watever the tool table is
[21:00:48] <Diony> On axis the DRO tab displays the current tool table
[21:01:45] <Diony> the status bar, the tool table one
[21:02:04] <Diony> the #5403, the tool table one
[21:03:01] <Diony> the "linuxcnc Status" windows, the current one (via tool-offset parameter
[21:03:03] <Diony> )
[21:03:50] <Diony> I think there is a problem, with the parameters
[21:04:28] <Diony> they should be the curent in use tool offset
[21:04:47] <Diony> Someone understand me?
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[21:09:14] <Diony> skunkworks: do you understand me?
[21:09:39] <Diony> skunkworks: (I am sorry to insist)
[21:10:30] <andypugh> Hmm
[21:11:01] <andypugh> Yes, the offset doesn't consider transient tools
[21:11:20] <Diony> andypugh: ha :))
[21:11:36] <Diony> andypugh: thanks
[21:11:47] <andypugh> Which is interesting.
[21:11:57] <andypugh> I don't know if it should or not
[21:12:57] <Diony> I think it should, there is no way to get the curent tool offsets in gcode
[21:13:31] <andypugh> I don't know how you can do a G43.1 and not have the number you used in your G-code
[21:14:01] <Diony> I don't do a G43
[21:14:09] <Diony> G43.1
[21:14:23] <andypugh> Yes. But where does the niumber come from?
[21:14:28] <Diony> I do a G43
[21:14:42] <andypugh> You just said you dodn't
[21:14:53] <andypugh> (didn't)
[21:15:25] <Diony> I am on a remap tool changer
[21:15:50] <psha> http://psha.org.ru/tmp/0001-gladevcp-Fix-EMC_Action_Open.patch
[21:15:56] <Diony> I need to know the next tool length (in tool table) to probe it
[21:15:57] <psha> andypugh: ^^
[21:16:11] <Diony> so I do :
[21:16:17] <Diony> G43 H#<_selected_tool>
[21:16:24] <Diony> #<old_tool_length> = #5403
[21:16:29] <Diony> G43 H0
[21:16:36] <Diony> (DEBUG, old tool length : #<old_tool_length>)
[21:17:06] <Diony> I need to get the tool "#<_selected_tool>" Z length
[21:17:39] <Diony> but I do not know it
[21:18:05] <andypugh> You need that so you can start probing from an efficient position?
[21:19:21] <Diony> I know more or less (+-5mm) the length of my tool (manual change)
[21:19:39] <Diony> I want to put the length in my tool table
[21:19:57] <Diony> and probe only 10mm around the nominal value
[21:20:01] <Diony> in tool table
[21:20:55] <Diony> what is an "efficient position"? (sorry for my bad english)
[21:21:05] <andypugh> Not too far away
[21:21:39] <andypugh> 5403 updates on the M6, not the G43.
[21:21:49] <Diony> ok
[21:22:26] <andypugh> So, you may be able to do an M6 T#<_selected_tool>
[21:22:35] <Diony> the problem with M6 remap is I am remaping the M6 code ;)
[21:22:38] <andypugh> In the remapped code.
[21:23:16] <andypugh> Yes, but I _think_ that inside the remap the code acts normally,
[21:23:27] <Diony> ok I will try this
[21:23:54] <Diony> I think the doc should be updated
[21:24:07] <Diony> (or the code ;) )
[21:24:58] <andypugh> Possibly. I am not sure.
[21:25:52] <andypugh> The docs could say "tool lengths" rather than "offsets" I suppose.
[21:27:20] <Diony> no I think it could say the "tool table tool lengths of the current loaded tool"
[21:27:38] <andypugh> Yes
[21:28:10] <Diony> I understand the current dox as "the current tool lengths" (or offsets)
[21:28:15] <Diony> *doc
[21:28:30] <andypugh> Well, the offsets and the lengths are subtly different things.
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[21:35:35] <Diony> well... The M6 Txxx don't work in remap code (the subroutine exit)
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[21:36:46] <andypugh> Oh,
[21:36:46] <Diony> andypugh: is there a way to get the current "tool_offset" as shown in the statu windows of linuxcnc?
[21:37:00] <andypugh> I don't know.
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[21:37:53] <Diony> in python?
[21:38:32] <andypugh> Definitely a way in Python, because Axis is written in Python.
[21:38:45] <Diony> good point ;)
[21:39:33] <andypugh> The prolog python can probably get it.
[21:40:19] <Diony> I am thinking of this but I don't know how to proceed
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[21:42:03] <andypugh> section 4.6 definitely says that built-in M6 should work normally inside the remap
[21:42:14] <Diony> I know
[21:42:37] <andypugh> Try M6 _without_ the T
[21:42:43] <Diony> I think the problem is the tool prepared -> tool_preepare loop
[21:43:19] <andypugh> I think that the T-word in the M6 remap might be the problem/
[21:45:29] <Diony> ok it seems to work
[21:45:50] <Diony> thank you a lot
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[21:47:30] <andypugh> No problem, I learn a lot this way
[21:47:44] <Diony> mhaberler: hi
[21:47:51] <andypugh> Ah, mhaberler. Interesting that the T-word in a remapped M6 is problematical.
[21:48:02] <mhaberler> hi!
[21:48:10] <andypugh> (but unnecessary)
[21:48:10] <Diony> mhaberler: how are you?
[21:48:41] <mhaberler> out of red wine, I went to the local white wine bodega and had one or two ;)
[21:49:26] <Diony> I catch the point ;)
[21:49:37] <mhaberler> it seems I have to read back..
[21:50:54] <Diony> mhaberler: yes, there is a other problem with your M6 example remap code (not exposed above)
[21:51:15] <mhaberler> taking notes..
[21:51:34] <mhaberler> (actually the logbot does this for me. great guy.)
[21:51:36] <Diony> in the ngc routine of manual change
[21:51:59] <Diony> you use M73
[21:52:19] <mhaberler> yes
[21:52:28] <Diony> so any g53 is cancelled once subroutine is gone
[21:52:46] <mhaberler> this is mostly to be independent of current units in the toolchange routine
[21:52:58] <Diony> it's problematic for tool probe
[21:53:08] <mhaberler> g53 is not modal (I think)
[21:53:26] <Diony> sorry G43
[21:53:29] <mhaberler> aja
[21:53:44] <mhaberler> uh. That might be a valid point..
[21:53:47] <Diony> (and yes g53 is not modal)
[21:54:08] <mhaberler> you mean my tc example doesnt reenable g43 when done?
[21:54:33] <Diony> I think (I tested it)
[21:55:02] <andypugh> But you always need a G43 after an M6
[21:55:14] <andypugh> It's your job to put it there.
[21:55:32] <Diony> Ok but cambam doesn't
[21:55:49] <mhaberler> then she needs fixing
[21:55:50] <Diony> so it's no a big deal
[21:56:28] <Diony> I know haow to correct this for my use, it was just for report
[21:57:14] <mhaberler> I need to look but I think I an m6 cancels g43 - you might look at RETAIN_G43 in the remap manual and give that a try, but I didnt throughly test that
[21:57:30] <Diony> the initial problem were with the 540x parameter which shows the tool table offset and no the current offset of the tool
[21:58:04] <Diony> ok I will try the RETAIN_G43
[21:58:24] <Diony> and report to you if a problem occured
[21:59:10] <mhaberler> assigning to 540x doesnt change a tt entry; it is really just a local variable after its being read from tt
[22:00:22] <Diony> andypugh say me that the #540x parameters change only with a M6 not with G43
[22:00:44] <Diony> I just read the parameter
[22:00:49] <andypugh> Yes, that seems to be the case. I am not sure if that is _meant_ to be the case
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[22:50:45] <Diony> mhaberler: RETAIN_G43 does not seems to work in my case, It seems to disable G43.
[22:52:05] <Diony> mhaberler: don't worry I wil change the cambam postprocessor to Add G43 when tool change
[22:52:25] <mhaberler> I think this is the better solution
[22:52:47] <Diony> I trust you!
[22:53:09] <Diony> what do you think about the 540x parameters?
[22:54:01] <andypugh> I suspect that you might be the only one who has ever thought about them :-)
[22:54:32] <Diony> because you make me thought that!
[22:54:37] <Diony> ;)
[22:55:15] <Diony> any idea to get the current tool offset (in gcode or python)?
[22:55:45] <andypugh> I thought that M6 was doing the trick?
[22:56:29] <Diony> yes but I can use it just once in the subroutine
[22:56:38] <Diony> after it claim a Txx
[22:56:52] <andypugh> Ah.
[22:56:54] <Diony> to do a M (logic)
[22:57:10] <andypugh> You know about G10?
[22:57:36] <Diony> It is for writing tool offsets np?
[22:57:41] <Diony> no?
[22:58:12] <Diony> I use G10 L1 or L10 (i don't remember)
[22:58:30] <Diony> to update the tool table from probed length
[22:58:50] <andypugh> Yes.
[22:59:51] <andypugh> So, if you update the tool table and M6 again, you don't get the new values in #540x ?
[23:00:11] <andypugh> I guess not, as T hasn't changed.
[23:00:14] <andypugh> Arh!
[23:00:18] <Diony> yep
[23:00:42] <Diony> It work the first time bacause of le main Txx
[23:01:06] <Diony> *because
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