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[09:16:12] <cncbasher> any have merge errors on Jeff's last , in glcanon.py
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[10:47:29] <tissf> hi all
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[11:11:30] <mhaberler> where? I dont see any
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[11:31:27] <cncbasher> hi michael
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[11:38:34] <stfwi> Hi guys, again one question about the motion part :-) : is tp->cycleTime constant or variable (means the configured sample period time OR can it change due to rtapi timing)?
[12:00:15] <jthornton> hi Francis
[12:25:36] <awallin> stfwi: it is constant once set afaik. rtapi might round it to the nearest suitable nanosecond or so
[12:26:48] <stfwi> Ok, thanks. I was wandering why it is saved in every TC instead accessing the tp struct instead.
[12:27:33] <stfwi> So this is organisational for the case that the tp is not accessible when working with a tc
[12:28:04] <stfwi> It's actually the same with ini_maxvel and tc.maxvel
[12:29:09] <awallin> hm, could it be that it is saving the measured last cycle-time, so that the measured one (not the pre-set) can be used in the current tp-calculations
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[12:35:42] <stfwi> I can't find anything like that in the code, but if you change a setting you need to disable the amplifiers and reset the trajgen anyway
[12:36:43] <stfwi> The only thing I was wandering is if the RTAPI tells you at which time since the last call your timer callback was called, so that the period time is not constant
[12:38:24] <stfwi> int tpSetCycleTime(TP_STRUCT * tp, double secs) is the only setter I could find
[12:42:01] <stfwi> An as far as I can see it goes back to void emcmotController(void *arg, long period) --> emcmotSetCycleTime(period);
[12:43:35] <stfwi> So, conclusion :-) : I assume it is constant then
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[13:16:45] <CIA-6> 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * rbcc658e7483d 10/docs/src/common/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Docs: add vcp images
[13:18:05] <SadMan> in emcrsh.cc, getPosOffset()
[13:18:06] <SadMan> sprintf(buf, " %f", convertLinearUnits(emcStatus->task.g5x_offset.tran.x + emcStatus->task.g5x_offset.tran.x));
[13:18:17] <SadMan> should be
[13:18:22] <SadMan> sprintf(buf, " %f", convertLinearUnits(emcStatus->task.g5x_offset.tran.x + emcStatus->task.g92_offset.tran.x));
[13:18:31] <SadMan> same for y and z, a,b,c look ok
[13:25:30] <tissf> hello John, no tornado in your city?
[13:29:24] <tissf> jthornton: take a look at the gcode.txt for G code Table <<sec:G0-Rapid,G0>> is a bad link
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[13:44:16] <jthornton> hi Francis, no tornado here but real close
[13:44:30] <jthornton> thanks for the tip on the broken link
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[13:46:59] <CIA-6> 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * r5c4ad82d0a26 10/docs/src/gcode/gcode.txt: Docs: fix broken link
[13:47:17] <tissf> jthornton: a lot of damage in your area, I saw on TV, it's scary!
[13:50:06] <jthornton> yea the tornados hit all around me, once a very bad one passed 300 meters from my house...
[13:50:26] <tissf> I'm glad you have no damage :)
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[13:54:21] <jthornton> me too!
[13:54:35] <tissf> :)
[13:54:48] <jthornton> how are things in your neck of the woods?
[13:56:37] <tissf> it is spring, 13 ° C, I prepare the garden.
[13:57:54] <tissf> between two translations
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[13:58:58] <jthornton> yea I need to get started in the garden too
[13:59:34] <tissf> I currently revising gcode_fr.txt, many small fixes
[14:00:34] <tissf> and cosmetic improvements
[14:02:00] <jthornton> did you notice G41/42 change in wording
[14:05:53] <tissf> yes
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[14:08:41] <jthornton> I'm heading out to the shop so I'll see you later
[14:09:58] <tissf> ok
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[18:11:22] <jepler> 19 files changed, 145074 insertions(+), 78293 deletions(-)
[18:11:27] <jepler> I'm very nervous
[18:11:49] <jepler> but if I push this change my measurables will be very high
[18:14:36] <cradek> what are you doing??
[18:15:06] <jepler> I'm investigating "weblate", a web-based translation system with git integration
[18:15:29] <jepler> the first step involves changing and updating all the .po files, which leads to a big change when measured in line count
[18:16:03] <cradek> ooh, that sounds neat
[18:16:18] <jepler> many of the pofiles haven't been updated in ages, and also I have to make the paths in them relative to the git top level, not src/
[18:16:39] <cradek> does it get the asciidoc files into po format somehow so markup is only in one place?
[18:16:51] <jepler> no, this is not about asciidoc
[18:16:54] <jepler> this is about the UI translations
[18:17:42] <jepler> but if po4a is based around .po files and we adopt it then weblate could be relevant for the task of documentation translation too
[18:17:57] <cradek> that would sure be the biggest win
[18:18:46] <jepler> one potential suck is that it seems to create one commit for each translation change
[18:18:56] <jepler> so if you translate 5000 messages it creates 5000 commits
[18:20:32] <cradek> hm, maybe we want a system without so much git "integration"
[18:20:50] <jepler> anyway, it does this all in its own git clone, from which you can pull (if you have access; it's just on my local filesystem)
[18:21:14] <cradek> oh so you could collapse the changes if you felt like it.
[18:21:22] <jepler> at that stage you could do something like collapse all the commits by one author if you felt like it and could figure out how to write it
[18:21:25] <jepler> exactly
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[18:23:54] <jepler> the web interface freezes for minutes and minutes when incorporating new changes from git. :(
[18:24:04] <jepler> I probably need to use a real database instead of sqlite3
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[19:57:05] <jepler> If you're interested, I've set up a webserver running 'weblate' to translate messages in linuxcnc:
http://l10n.unpythonic.net/projects/linuxcnc/
[19:57:28] <jepler> for now it's working off of a version of linuxcnc that has diverged slightly, and messages don't get automatically added to the main linuxcnc git repository
[19:57:59] <jepler> but if feedback is positive, I'll finish getting it working
[19:58:22] <cradek> I picked 2.5, swedish, untranslated strings
[19:58:30] <cradek> the first one is ERROR: '%s' is not a valid probe type
[19:59:10] <cradek> when I clicked Translate using MyMemory (?) it gave me a weird perhaps-incorrectly-quoted translation: FEL: '% s' är inte en giltig sondtyp
[19:59:44] <cradek> fwiw, I am really excited about the idea
[20:00:07] <jepler> ' is clearly not going to work properly
[20:00:46] <jepler> "% s" is not good either
[20:01:06] <cradek> yeah, it seems pretty wrong
[20:01:14] <jepler> I think that you will have to use your judgement as a translator; you can't just mash "translate using free web service" and then "Save"
[20:01:21] <cradek> well sure
[20:02:10] <cradek> what is [Suggest]?
[20:02:19] <jepler> (but I think there's a fair chance that "sondtyp" is actually right)
[20:02:30] <jepler> If you're logged in you can actually create git commits that modify the translations
[20:02:44] <jepler> if you're not, you can put it in suggestions, which logged in users can approve
[20:03:00] <cradek> ah
[20:03:16] <cradek> so I've been making suggestions, when I thought I was asking it to suggest something to me
[20:03:24] <jepler> ah, no
[20:03:51] <cradek> I had guessed "suggest the next string I should try to translate" and from all appearances that was what was happening...
[20:04:23] <cradek> There are 2644 strings, out of which 100.0% is translated and 0.0% is fuzzy.
[20:04:30] <jepler> http://l10n.unpythonic.net/projects/linuxcnc/linuxcnc-25/sv/translate/?type=suggestions
[20:04:37] <cradek> I'd like to translate this into English by changing "is" to "are". :-)
[20:04:51] <jepler> I appreciate exactly how you feel about that message.
[20:05:15] <cradek> funny that suggestion appears correctly
[20:05:54] <cradek> I fear the html-escaping
[20:06:10] <jepler> I may see if I can turn off that auto-translation-suggest button too
[20:06:23] <jepler> while you're here, would you mind trying to create a user and log in?
[20:06:29] <jepler> I have not tried that process
[20:06:40] <cradek> sure
[20:06:55] <jepler> I suppose I should have :-/
[20:07:18] <jepler> Mar 10 14:06:21 lamp postfix/smtpd[31070]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[176.60.66.92]: 550 5.7.1 <ga20186@unpythonic.net>: Sender address rejected: QUEUE_ID="" SPF Reports: 'SPF fail - not authorized'; from=<ga20186@unpythonic.net> to=<ga20186@unpythonic.net> proto=SMTP helo=<microsof-9fe85a>
[20:07:24] <jepler> Mar 10 14:07:10 lamp postfix/smtpd[31066]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[41.97.214.114]: 550 5.7.1 <ga10617@unpythonic.net>: Sender address rejected: QUEUE_ID="" SPF Reports: 'SPF fail - not authorized'; from=<ga10617@unpythonic.net> to=<ga10617@unpythonic.net> proto=SMTP helo=<sweet-6d1444259>
[20:07:26] <cradek> it fails
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[20:07:33] <jepler> keep trying to crazy spammers who do not know the difference between an e-mail address and a message-id
[20:07:54] <jepler> Mar 10 14:07:17 lamp postfix/smtpd[31070]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from localhost[127.0.0.1]: 554 5.7.1 <chris@timeguy.com>: Relay access denied; from=<webmaster@localhost> to=<chris@timeguy.com> proto=ESMTP helo=<localhost>
[20:08:09] <jepler> hm, I think that <from> should be different
[20:08:17] <jepler> let me look into it
[20:08:19] <cradek> yeah that's like the error I get
[20:08:26] <cradek> do you want to see it?
[20:09:01] <cradek> oh that's your sendmail, not mine
[20:09:54] <jepler> yeah I think so
[20:10:21] <cradek> heh nice, it shows the password in the error message
[20:11:39] <cradek> are l10n and lamp the same machine?
[20:12:13] <jepler> yes
[20:12:44] <cradek> weird it thinks that's a relay then
[20:13:08] <jepler> indeed
[20:13:11] <cradek> I should do my taxes
[20:13:23] <jepler> suit yourself
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[20:20:34] <jepler> Please open the following link in your web browser. If the link
[20:20:34] <jepler> is split over several lines, you may need to copy it in the
[20:20:35] <jepler> address bar.
[20:20:35] <jepler> http://example.com/accounts/activate/2b5c355e119e3d87269d3cdd0dc5653600767455/
[20:20:38] <jepler> hm, there is still another problem here
[20:21:46] <cradek> ha
[20:32:04] <jepler> ok, fixed!
[20:32:16] <jepler> anybody else want to kick the tires? I'll be back a bit later to see any feedback..
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[21:02:32] <JT-Shop> when I try the link I get this link
http://www.iana.org/domains/example/
[21:02:54] <JT-Shop> what am I kicking?
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[22:05:16] <JT-Shop> at any time did setting max and min limits for an angular axis disable the limits? Gene 77 seems to think so...
[22:13:25] <jepler> JT-Shop: argh, I thought I'd fixed that
[22:13:45] <jepler> JT-Shop: er, do you mean the link shown above in irc? that was while my software wasn't working right yet
[22:13:59] <jepler> http://l10n.unpythonic.net/ is the web thing I'm talking about
[22:14:19] <JT-Shop> yea, the link redirects to the other link
[22:14:48] <JT-Shop> that one shows up as weblate
[22:14:51] <jepler> yes
[22:15:02] <jepler> that's the one.
[22:15:19] <jepler> weblate is software for updating ".po" translations like we use in linuxcnc for the user interfaces
[22:16:00] <JT-Shop> cool
[22:16:14] <jepler> the idea being that if we lower the barriers to translating linuxcnc, maybe it'll have better translations
[22:16:25] <jepler> learning enough about git and .po files is a bit of a barrier
[22:16:56] <JT-Shop> I'd bet that is challenging and way over my head for sure
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[22:19:12] <jepler> you know enough git to get around
[22:19:50] <JT-Shop> and get into trouble from time to time...
[22:24:17] <jepler> oh, you can never know enough to never get yourself into trouble. you can only close up the gap between your ability to get into trouble and your ability to get back out of trouble
[22:27:48] <JT-Shop> so true, like my wife wanted a 4 wheel drive so she would not get stuck in the snow... you just get stuck deeper with 4 wheel drive
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