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[02:28:37] <dgarr> a small patch for pickconfig (2.5)
http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/0001-pickconfig.tcl-handle-selection-of-existing-config.patch
[02:28:54] <dgarr> and one for ngcgui (2.5):
http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/0001-ngcgui.tcl-report-wrongly-included-subroutines.patch
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[02:51:18] <jepler> re: "ngcgui.tcl: report wrongly included subroutines", the matching seems very naive so that for example it would match inside a comment. what's the consequence of not detecting this situation?
[02:54:09] <jepler> re: "pickconfig.tcl: handle selection of existing config" the intent is to make a numbered copy when the original already existed, trying up to 1000 numbered copies in the process
[02:54:14] <jepler> I guess this code never worked or bitrotted..
[02:54:28] <jepler> it's the block starting here:
[02:54:28] <jepler> # note: file mkdir will make parents as required
[02:54:28] <jepler> if [catch { file mkdir $copydir } msg] {
[02:54:49] <jepler> but [file makedir existingdir] succeeds, apparently (related: that comment right above)
[02:55:36] <jepler> (so unlike mkdir(2) you can't tell if you raced against another creator :()
[03:14:25] <jepler> bbl
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[03:58:37] <dgarr> revised patch for pickconfig:
http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/0001-pickconfig.tcl-handle-reselecting-existing-config.patch
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[04:38:54] <dgarr> less naive parsing and augmented explanation:
http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/0001-ngcgui.tcl-report-wrongly-included-subroutines.patch
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[13:04:57] <jepler> cradek: dgarr's patch
http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/0001-pickconfig.tcl-handle-reselecting-existing-config.patch fixes a problem where pickconfig would blindly overwrite configuration files when copying a read-only configuration to ~
[13:05:00] <jepler> cradek: I think it's probably a good idea for 2.5.
[13:06:18] <jepler> (though I have to give the caveat that the test I just did was on master branch)
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[13:17:58] <jepler> http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/0001-ngcgui.tcl-report-wrongly-included-subroutines.patch is still not perfect, but if it's diagnosing a real problem that dgarr or his users are hitting, and nobody's contributing a patch to add appropriate error handling to the interpreter itself I'd say to go ahead
[13:18:17] <jepler> it's worth noting a few more crazy things you can write just to avoid the test, though:
[13:18:20] <jepler> o100. sub
[13:18:21] <jepler> o[11*11] sub
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[13:19:16] <jepler> and that I also smell bad behavior related to named subroutines inside files read for their subroutines
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[16:53:00] <JT-Shop> Hi Seb
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[18:47:01] <IchGuckLive> Hi all do you think that a non C++ programmer can implement G12/G13 to the interpreter as i tried with sugsess the Foam XYUV axis modification with less python experience
[18:47:35] <IchGuckLive> or is the interpreter mostly on pointers so it is the hell of a search
[18:53:42] <cradek> can you point me to a full description of what you want G12/G13 to do?
[18:54:46] <IchGuckLive> there is a special in the wikipedia knoligebase
[18:55:14] <IchGuckLive> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?G12-13
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[18:57:10] <jepler> this might be worth looking into:
http://blog.cihar.com/archives/2012/03/06/announcing-weblate/
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[18:58:04] <cradek> the yasnac g12/g13 looks useful
[18:58:36] <cradek> that wiki page is not a spec because it has many conflicting suggestions
[18:59:38] <cradek> pg 28 of
http://www.yaskawa.com/site/dmcontrol.nsf/(DocID)/TKUR-5TALBZ/$File/TOE-C843-7-30.pdf
[18:59:42] <IchGuckLive> cradek: did you see my python file
[19:00:12] <cradek> I don't see why you'd want to cutter compensation separately - it should be used if in effect, and not used if not, for symmetry with all the rest of ngc
[19:01:43] <IchGuckLive> agree
[19:02:10] <IchGuckLive> alot of users whant to do a zero path lots of moellist dont use CRC
[19:03:16] <IchGuckLive> im fighting here in germany for CRC as i educate around 15000 persons a year in cnc
[19:03:31] <IchGuckLive> sorry 1500
[19:03:39] <IchGuckLive> B) O.o
[19:04:30] <IchGuckLive> 40weeks on 26 workplaces with 2 people
[19:06:01] <cradek> G12/G13 is complex enough that I suggest writing a full spec (put it on the wiki) and have a discussion about how best to do it in ngc
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[19:08:20] <cradek> in Fig 2.22 it's not clear to me how the "spiral" progresses
[19:08:24] <IchGuckLive> linuxcnc is mostly folowing Fanuc 11 code
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[19:08:58] <IchGuckLive> page 28
[19:09:35] <IchGuckLive> i looking one moment
[19:09:57] <cradek> I haven't found fanuc 11 manual online yet
[19:10:05] <cradek> let us know if you find a spec you want to follow
[19:10:23] <cradek> wikipedia says G12/G13 "Not standard on Fanuc controls"
[19:10:31] <IchGuckLive> its the first in the wiki
[19:10:50] <IchGuckLive> cradek mail ? i will send you the haas manuel
[19:11:11] <IchGuckLive> querry me
[19:11:25] <jepler> bizarre, this yasnac manual documents what happens if you switch from G41 to G42 without going through G40. I wonder if there's a case where you'd actually want to do that. (page - 46 -)
[19:11:27] <cradek> that wouldn't help us discuss it in public :-/
[19:11:48] <jepler> it also shows what happens when you change tool radius during compensation
[19:11:52] <cradek> jepler: oh wow
[19:12:15] <jepler> I can see how supporting what's shown in figure 2.49 would lead to what's shown in 2.48 if somebody actually programmed that
[19:12:21] <cradek> I sure wish we did that - people ask for it all the time
[19:12:28] <cradek> yes I agree
[19:12:39] <IchGuckLive> G12 Circular Pocket Milling CW / G13 Circular Pocket Milling CCW (Group 00) These two G codes are used to mill circular shapes. They are different only in which direction of rotation is used. Both G codes use the default XY circular plane (G17) and imply the use of G42 (cutter compensation) for G12 and G41 for G13. These two G-codes are non-modal.
[19:12:41] <IchGuckLive> D Tool radius or diameter selection
[19:12:43] <IchGuckLive> I Radius of first circle (or finish if no K)
[19:12:44] <IchGuckLive> I value must be greater than Tool Radius, but less than K value.
[19:12:46] <IchGuckLive> K Radius of finished circle (if specified)
[19:12:48] <IchGuckLive> L Loop count for repeating deeper cuts
[19:12:50] <IchGuckLive> Q Radius increment, or stepover (must be used with K)
[19:12:51] <IchGuckLive> F feedrate in inches (mm) per minute
[19:12:53] <IchGuckLive> Z Depth of cut or increment
[19:13:07] <cradek> IchGuckLive: wiki page!
[19:13:56] <jepler> bbl
[19:15:17] <cradek> pg 44 is interesting and awful
[19:16:45] <cradek> 43 also interesting and awful
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[19:19:44] <IchGuckLive> cradek:
http://haascnc.com/techfo_manual.asp here ae the manueals
[19:19:57] <IchGuckLive> operator mill
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[19:32:19] <IchGuckLive> by i see it is doing somthing on this THANKS cradek
[19:32:29] <IchGuckLive> consider G150 also
[19:32:44] <IchGuckLive> there is a linuxcnc wiki for this also
[19:32:57] <cradek> I think you overestimate my commitment
[19:33:16] <cradek> I was trying to help you so that if you want to work on this, you'd do it in a way that your work could be incorporated
[19:33:20] <IchGuckLive> you know more then i so it is good
[19:33:48] <IchGuckLive> oh i dedent ment it that way
[19:35:15] <IchGuckLive> iwill take alock if i get the c++ filename of the interpreter in the git
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