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[13:36:36] <Ekkeri> some small nitpicks about HAL manual: 2.2.4: "show param" not needed, 2.2.5: difference between 'save' & 'save all'? 2.4.4: there's stepgen.n.position-scale, not velocity-scale
[13:38:29] <jthornton> Ekkeri: 2.5 manual?
[13:39:45] <Ekkeri> yup
[13:40:43] <jthornton> 2.2.4 in the pdf? or the html?
[13:41:11] <jthornton> ah got to be the pdf numbering
[13:43:47] <Ekkeri> and some for Mesa Hostmot2: 18.11: no explanation for IM & tbl5? no info about new features like muxed encoders (and serial things etc.), "Custom hm2 firmwares can be created", I think there should be small hint how.. 18.14.2: more info about locked antiphase? 18.15.2: vel-timeout: default? recommendations?
[13:43:52] <Ekkeri> yup, pdf, sorry
[13:44:58] <Ekkeri> mine is 2012-01-13
[13:45:03] <jthornton> yea, the Mesa docs are a bit behind and some of the stuff I'm not familiar with
[13:45:24] <jthornton> I'm a bit familiar with the 5i25 stuff as I have one of those
[13:48:26] <Ekkeri> in 18.7 that 'Note' starts with "That", I skipped that 'Note' :)
[13:49:16] <Ekkeri> but I think that "Some of the..." is a bit inadequate
[13:50:51] <Ekkeri> but yeah, nothing major, just some observations after reading those, at least that position should be changed to velocity
[13:51:16] <jthornton> ok, thanks for the help
[13:52:12] <Ekkeri> but I'm curious to know what those IM & tbl5 are? :)
[13:52:57] <jthornton> hmm, for some reason my pdfs are not getting built atm
[13:54:57] <jthornton> I'm not sure at the moment what that is :)
[13:56:05] <Ekkeri> hmm
[13:56:06] <jthornton> no explanation in the source or clue as to what that means
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[14:02:16] <Ekkeri> freqgen had velocity-scale, but there seems to be no such parameter for stepgen in 18.13.2 HAL manual
[14:04:20] <Ekkeri> nor with "show param" in 2.4.1
[14:05:15] <Ekkeri> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html/hal_rtcomps.html#r0_2_4
[14:06:48] <Ekkeri> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html/hal_tutorial.html#r1_4_4 "That is exactly what the parameter stepgen.n.velocity-scale is for."
[14:07:19] <Ekkeri> I'm confused :)
[14:08:16] <JT-Shop> I stay confused :/
[14:09:42] <Ekkeri> is that PWMGen 'output-type 4' new thing in v2.5?
[14:12:15] <Ekkeri> or should it be output_type?
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[14:31:42] <jthornton> leaving on - out of a closing delimiter for a listing block can drive you nuts trying to find the error
[14:31:53] <jthornton> s/on/one
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[17:57:37] <IchGucksLive> hi can i change files inside a git clone ?
[17:57:45] <IchGucksLive> by gedit them
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[18:02:49] <jthornton> yep
[18:03:04] <jthornton> or make another branch off that clone
[18:05:29] <IchGucksLive> i simply dont understand this system i tryd hard now since 5Dez but no git produced
[18:06:22] <IchGucksLive> exept lost all my hard xyuv modificated files throu a Ubuntu update emc-sim wars upgradet and axis and glcanon modification all lost
[18:06:45] <CIA-9> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * r09275a4baa94 10/docs/src/hal/ (12 files): Docs: clean up markup and other errors
[18:06:49] <CIA-9> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * rb7b3dcca11fa 10/docs/src/hal/ (4 files): Docs: fix typos and white space errors
[18:07:33] <IchGucksLive> do i need to be a member of git to generate a git or upload it
[18:07:40] <psha> IchGucksLive: i'm here now so if you need some guiding through git - just ask
[18:07:44] <psha> no
[18:07:46] <psha> you don't need
[18:07:54] <psha> you'll generate patch and send it
[18:08:02] <IchGucksLive> i did all and the install seams to do what i did
[18:08:11] <IchGucksLive> src so is good
[18:08:48] <psha> so if git status is ok - run 'git add filename' for each file not marked as 'to be commited' and then run 'git commit'
[18:08:48] <IchGucksLive> so whats next the mashine i produced in axis folder is not available
[18:13:55] <IchGucksLive> please enter a commit massage ?
[18:14:45] <IchGucksLive> psha: xyuv Modification for foam Cutting mashines
[18:15:59] <IchGucksLive> there is a little menue witch awaits key press
[18:17:03] <IchGucksLive> is this the readme for this git
[18:19:16] <psha> enter something that describes your patch
[18:19:34] <psha> short brief on the first line, newline and several lines of description
[18:21:20] <IchGucksLive> done
[18:21:28] <IchGucksLive> now writeout ?
[18:23:04] <IchGucksLive> alt +O or what do i need to press
[18:26:12] <IchGucksLive> psha: still waiting on what is next
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[18:29:18] <IchGucksLive> STRG+X
[18:30:25] <IchGucksLive> psha: this is the output http://paste.pocoo.org/show/535245/
[18:31:27] <psha> IchGucksLive: git format-patch HEAD^
[18:31:41] <psha> you'll get file named 0001-lower-case-of-your-first-line
[18:31:54] <mhaberler> the IRC archive links on http://wiki.linuxcnc.org are broken
[18:32:52] <IchGucksLive> do i need to replace the HEAD
[18:33:34] <psha> no
[18:33:36] <psha> HEAD^
[18:33:38] <psha> is keyword
[18:34:04] <psha> means that you need to format patches for one level behind current branch head
[18:34:13] <IchGucksLive> 0001-xyuv-Modification-for-foam-Cutting-mashines.patch
[18:34:15] <psha> HEAD^^ - will result in two patches etc
[18:34:17] <psha> yes
[18:34:20] <psha> post it to ML
[18:34:26] <psha> or maybe first show here
[18:37:16] <IchGucksLive> hoe to show here ?
[18:37:30] <IchGucksLive> what does this mean
[18:37:57] <psha> pastebin
[18:38:10] <IchGucksLive> the file .patch
[18:39:32] <IchGucksLive> psha: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/535250/
[18:41:46] <IchGucksLive> i will ML
[18:44:17] <IchGucksLive> mail is out
[18:44:45] <IchGucksLive> thanks for your help i looked the irc so i can redo this if i need
[18:45:03] <psha> there are some issues in that patch - but for first time it's ok
[18:45:13] <psha> you've set +x bits on several files
[18:45:17] <IchGucksLive> wher can i find the issue
[18:45:20] <psha> probably you've copied them from fat partitions
[18:45:53] <IchGucksLive> no i worked on sudo spe
[18:47:27] <IchGucksLive> i will also find a better way to fet the XY and uv feed to the system i discaferd that GlcanonDraw holds a self.canon of Glcanon
[18:47:53] <IchGucksLive> so i will use a very short way to get this to drawing
[18:48:27] <IchGucksLive> i recived more then 20 replays to the youtube video
[18:49:24] <IchGucksLive> so wher can people that are interestet get this patch from
[18:50:00] <IchGucksLive> or will i recive a replay from ML
[18:51:26] <IchGucksLive> ok i will wait and see BYe
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[19:20:27] <CIA-9> EMC: 03tissf 07v2.5_branch * rdfd41caa7ad9 10/ (22 files in 6 dirs): French docs - reduced weight images - sync between gui and docs - fix problems reported by Kent thanks
[19:21:31] <tom3p> hello, can anyone review this license and give opinion about including such software with emc2? http://pastebin.com/1vzXBeHi
[19:21:32] <tom3p> (IF the Vision4Hal is succesful AND the license is ok AND if its wanted at all )
[19:24:41] <jthornton> I think it fails to be GPL at the non-commercial part...
[19:25:51] <tom3p> ok, i got the whiff of 'you cnat make money from it' but was hopefull, i suppose back to geda
[19:25:59] <tom3p> dmanit
[19:33:04] <archivist> see how stuff like mysql is gpl and support is sold for it
[19:36:42] <tom3p> archivist, thanks, but i, dont understand, this product is not gpl and i wanted to build extension for use with emc. i think i gotta go elsewhere
[19:38:23] <psha> tom3p: it depends on extension
[19:39:34] <psha> but generaly this license look like ordinary crap
[19:39:59] <tom3p> if depends, or is arguable, well i m not a lawyer, nor ready to talk for all the users who might use it
[19:40:30] <tom3p> i already wiped ViusAlea nd MGL-Vision off the drive.
[19:40:33] <tom3p> thx all
[19:42:19] <psha> depends on extension means that if you have extension that it's not linked to emc2 gpl libraries - like standalone script/python embedable gui/etc - then it's ok
[19:43:27] <tom3p> and you can make money from it? like i say, notalawyer
[19:43:47] <psha> no - that is not allowed by mgl license
[19:44:00] <tom3p> ok, then not worth more effort, thx
[19:44:03] <psha> but at least it's not denied by emc license
[19:45:51] <tom3p> well i had signifcant work done in gEDA and its copylefted "This document can be freely redistributed according to the terms of the GNU General Public License version 2.0"
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[20:20:08] <andypugh> Is anyone picking up that XY/UV patch?
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[20:22:38] <tom3p> i grabbed it but havent installed the patch, its interesting
[20:25:58] <andypugh> I think it probably fills a need, though I am not sure if it should be an option in Axis, or be an alternative UI.
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[20:31:42] <CIA-9> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * r751f44bd0ae4 10/docs/src/hal/ (4 files): Docs: expand pin description
[20:31:44] <CIA-9> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * rbddfbfcc0b9a 10/docs/src/ (56 files in 7 dirs): Docs: make titles and links consistent
[20:33:06] <tom3p> andypugh, i stumbled on this a week ago seems to be ubu friendly & all python http://foamblade.sourceforge.net/
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[20:36:30] <andypugh> That seems to be a complete system, including the controller?
[20:38:17] <tom3p> andypugh, didnt look into it, just tagged it
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