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[01:32:12] <CIA-10> EMC: 03cmorley 07v2.5_branch * rb96009f9eb15 10/src/emc/usr_intf/pncconf/pncconf.py: pncconf -fix missing axis letter on encoder/resolver signal
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[10:59:49] <CIA-10> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * r1cc96a4f6216 10/docs/src/common/ (4 files): Docs: fix links
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[11:22:02] <jthornton> mhaberler: g84 seems to work for me but it give an error if you don't have a feed rate set and that seems odd
[11:23:06] <mhaberler> you mean it should give a proper error if feed==zero?
[11:23:08] <mhaberler> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM-M4GyWv0I&feature=youtu.be
[11:23:27] <jthornton> I didn'
[11:23:40] <jthornton> I didn't think that a feed rate was needed for that
[11:23:59] <mhaberler> hm
[11:24:12] <jthornton> cool, that your mill?
[11:24:23] <archivist> quiet!
[11:24:24] <mhaberler> yep
[11:25:04] <mhaberler> http://www.klippfeld.at/frame_de/fraes.php?function=1&maschine=F-12CNC
[11:26:01] <mhaberler> I'll try to reproduce; so s>0 but f=0 I assume
[11:26:21] <jthornton> that seems logical
[11:26:33] <jthornton> f=>0
[11:27:03] <mhaberler> I am confused
[11:27:24] <mhaberler> feed is a dont-care?
[11:27:42] <jthornton> seems that it won't matter if a feed rate is set or not to me
[11:28:08] <jthornton> feed is either rapid or controlled by pitch and rpm
[11:28:18] <mhaberler> with f=0 it says 'cant feed with zero feed rate' - ah, I see - the other cycles require it but the K param takes care of that
[11:28:42] <mhaberler> let me see wether I can shoot that check down ;)
[11:28:57] <jthornton> ok, thanks a million for looking at this
[11:32:36] <mhaberler> ok, pull mah g84-dev and it should bot complain any more on feed == 0 on G84: http://git.mah.priv.at/gitweb/emc2-dev.git/commit/ce8f385885d09afe7502db2df03b42ebec1a32a8
[11:33:19] <mhaberler> I'm unsure how to handle this for the non-XY planes
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[11:40:55] <jthornton> hmm, it would make sense in a XZ plane one a lathe with live tooling... but that might be a very small percentage of users
[11:41:53] <mhaberler> jt-shop: I would appreciate if you could comment on the retract behaviour (I hope I got it right); it starts feed sync move at xy, goes down and up again to where it started from; then rapid back to retract but that seems a noop to me
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[12:12:39] <awallin> what is the new thing with g84 you are doing?
[12:14:54] <jthornton> awallin: making it function
[12:15:29] <jthornton> manual entry for G84 "This code is currently unimplemented in EMC2. It is accepted, but the behavior is undefined. "
[12:18:01] <awallin> hm. I guess previous rigid-tapping work was with G33.1 then? what is the difference between G33.1 and G84?
[12:19:33] <jthornton> G33.1 is a one shot deal, and G84 behaves like other canned cycles as you can tack on more XY coordinates after G84 for more tapped holes till you get to a G80
[12:20:25] <jthornton> also G33.1 will tap a slot if your not careful
[12:20:51] <awallin> ok. For the manual, would it add to signal or noise if the word "cycle" would be added to the heading of all canned cycle descriptions?
[12:21:26] <awallin> now there are headings "G33.1 rigid tapping" and "g84 right-hand tapping" which to the uninitiated seem quite similar
[12:22:21] <awallin> or, have all canned cycles under the 1.32 section ?
[12:22:36] <jthornton> that makes sense, one is kinda long all ready
[12:23:20] <jthornton> look here http://linuxcnc.org/docview/2.5/html/gcode/gcode.html
[12:24:15] <awallin> jthornton: I would prefer "peck drilling cycle" and "right-hand tapping cycle"
[12:25:22] <jthornton> done
[12:25:33] <awallin> btw, how does asciidoc handle mathematical formulas? does it take latex as input?
[12:25:57] <jthornton> not very well at the moment
[12:26:12] <jthornton> latexmath trashes up the HTML docs
[12:26:41] <awallin> ok. I was thinking about writing up the trajectory control stuff... but maybe later
[12:27:12] <jthornton> what I did was use open office math then created a png from the screen shot using gimp
[12:28:03] <awallin> it needs to be automatic, preferably from latex-like syntax.. there are wordpress-plugins for this that might be useful
[12:28:19] * awallin back later..
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[13:09:32] <CIA-10> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * r2cf8b61cc7d2 10/docs/src/gcode/ (gcode.txt gcode_de.txt gcode_es.txt gcode_pl.txt): Docs: make all canned cycle section titles follow the same format.
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[19:24:26] <andypugh> [13:26:52] <jepler> + (u32**)&hm2->resolver.velocity_reg);
[19:24:26] <andypugh> [13:27:11] <jepler> hm2_register_tram_read_region expects u32** but is given s32**
[19:24:52] <andypugh> I wonder why I never noticed that?
[19:26:02] <andypugh> The data is actually S32, as velocity can be negative, but typecasting shouldn't effect the actual data in any way (expecially with two levels of abstraction)
[19:34:37] <jthornton> hi andypugh
[19:34:52] <jthornton> I just noticed the warning after a make clean
[19:35:18] <andypugh> I will put the cast in, but I don't have the hardware to test it.
[19:36:01] <jthornton> I have some resolver servos but no drives
[19:36:19] <jthornton> dc giant ones
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[19:40:10] <andypugh> You need a 7i49 too.
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[19:45:48] <mshaver> andypugh: The error numbers that come from hm2_5120.0.8i20.0.0.fault, status and comms don't seem to match the description in the manual. For example,
[19:45:48] <mshaver> I've gotten a 0x4938 for comms, but the manual says it's a one byte value.
[19:47:07] <mshaver> Sorry, that's for status, not comms.
[19:47:33] <mshaver> Similarly I get 0x2ba1c0 for comms, also a one byte value.
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[20:01:11] <jepler> looking at the source, status is manually masked to 16 bits
[20:01:11] <jepler> *hal->pin.hm2_status= *tram->reg_1_read & 0x0000FFFF;
[20:01:21] <jepler> comms is just a raw value from a 32-bit read
[20:01:21] <jepler> *hal->pin.hm2_comms = *tram->reg_cs_read;
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[20:12:30] <mshaver> Hey thanks Jeff! I was just on the phone with PCW, so couldn't type...
[20:14:44] <mshaver> Now, back to 8i20 work...
[20:17:54] <jepler> so it may be that you should only try to interpret the low-order 8 bits of those values, but as written it's not too surprising that more than 8 of the bits are populated on the linux side
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[21:19:40] <andypugh> Ah, sorry, I was in the workshop
[21:20:53] <andypugh> I have a feeling that the higher-order bits mean something too, though.
[21:21:13] <mhaberler> jthornton: actually I think it would be a good idea to add spindle-sync ala lathe.hal to one of the sim/axis configs
[21:24:40] <mhaberler> actually lathe.hal is a bit of a misnomer since all it does is simulate a spindle encoder, and that's not specific to a lathe
[21:41:25] <mshaver> andypugh: you there? If so, I was talking with Peter & he said that the Smart Serial Firmware version was being incorrectly reported in /var/log/messages as decimal 170 (hex AA) due to not waiting long enough for the 8i20 to start up. Apparently you need to wait until the 0xAA goes away & then you can read the version.
[21:45:31] <andypugh> mshaver: Ah, yes, I recall that from before Christmas.
[21:45:56] <andypugh> Well, I have already done this evening's job.
[21:46:22] <mshaver> I'm in Ann Arbor Michigan this week trying to get some machines with 8i20 spindle drives working.
[21:47:05] <mshaver> If you will be around, I may get to the point where I can ask some intelligent questions :)
[21:49:04] <andypugh> bodgesoc@gmail.com will get me pretty quickly most of the time
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