#emc-devel | Logs for 2010-09-02

[03:37:52] <SteveStallings> SteveStallings is now known as steves_logging
[06:42:30] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: cool, so emc2 (at least the latency test) worked on your quad and 6-core machines
[06:42:34] <alex_joni> that's really nice
[06:49:08] <morficmobile> sim works + Mlatency test works on triple core too :>
[06:49:15] <morficmobile> -M
[06:49:31] <Jymmm> alex_joni: you up early or late?
[06:54:29] <morficmobile> Jymmm: based on his slow/no reaction i wonder if he is up at all
[07:01:24] <alex_joni> Jymmm: close to 10am
[07:01:27] <alex_joni> so.. neither ;)
[07:01:46] <alex_joni> morficmobile: some people do have to work for a living
[07:09:24] <morficmobile> i am hating on ms sql server express right now
[07:10:15] <morficmobile> CAM software depends on at least a local version answering
[07:23:10] <morficmobile> and it seems to have eaten itself without chance for recovery
[07:26:43] <Jymmm> YES! We have POWAR!!!
[07:27:18] <Jymmm> Something that's so simple was a pita and costly!
[07:27:47] <Jymmm> * Jymmm blames alex_joni for that
[07:31:18] <alex_joni> sorry.. was up late, and tired .. so it probably was my fault :P
[07:31:30] <alex_joni> Jymmm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4f-s2lhAkI something to make you feel better
[07:32:58] <Jymmm> alex_joni: weird.
[07:34:16] <Jymmm> alex_joni: It cost $50 in parts to install an outdoor outlet
[07:35:27] <alex_joni> seems a bit pricey
[07:36:43] <Jymmm> alex_joni: Tell me about it. GFCI outlet, outdoor box, water tight flex conduit, two adapters, and what the mostly costly is this cheap plastic cover that's now required for code
[07:37:20] <Jymmm> alex_joni: This is a metal one, but you get the idea http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/exterior/siding/vinyl/accessories/j_block_01/sdvnjb28a_vinyl_j_block.jpg
[07:38:49] <Jymmm> alex_joni: Ah, here we go... http://www.deltronelectric.com/_cache/Electrical%20Boxes/img/amazon_B0013FRYH8.jpg
[07:41:10] <Jymmm> alex_joni: That, on top of one of these http://media.mydoitbest.com/imagerequest.aspx?sku=507614&size=2&warehouse=C&newsize=200
[07:42:18] <Jymmm> two of these http://www.discount-electrical.co.uk/shopimages/products/normal/cableman_plas/Flexicon/FLEX_fpa16m16b.jpg
[07:43:16] <Jymmm> alex_joni: and some of this water tight flex conduit http://socalfreenet.org/files/images//flex_hose_fitting_large-672_0.jpg
[07:48:27] <alex_joni> I see.. then it's not _that_ pricey, but still pricey
[07:51:17] <Jymmm> Well, $50 just to add an outdoor outlet is expensive
[07:51:35] <Jymmm> ONE outlet
[08:24:34] <alex_joni> yeah, but the second one will be cheaper ;)
[08:54:08] <Jymmm> I doubt it
[08:54:58] <Jymmm> especially since I'll have to buy all the exact same parts all over again.
[10:34:06] <moopy> i have only just noticed that linksp/linkps are obsolete???
[10:34:39] <moopy> does that mean only net connections will work?
[10:46:24] <moopy> i have decided to change all my variable names to (paramname_unitType) it will save me a huge amount of confusion
[10:49:21] <moopy> i have been trying to multiply an angle in radians by pi/180
[11:10:10] <SWPadnos> alex_joni, yes, all of the machines were able to run the latency test, so I assume EMC2 would also run
[11:12:16] <SWPadnos> it was also a combination of architectures - Intel ultra low voltage with Intel graphics, AMD 7xx motherboard with Phenom quad core and older nvidia graphics, and AMD 890FX motherboard with hexa-core and new(est) nvidia graphics
[14:04:50] <skunkworks> SWPadnos: thanks for starting the loggers.
[14:05:07] <SWPadnos> sure. sorry I didn't see the message until this morning
[14:05:21] <skunkworks> not a problem. Dad just gets a little grumpy ;)
[14:08:18] <jepler> not to worry -- if we're ever talking about him, his ears'll burn even if the logger is not running
[14:08:55] <skunkworks> Hi dad!
[14:09:16] <cradek> that's spooky
[14:18:33] <skunkworks> dad mounted the 3 phase transformer for the servos.
[14:18:59] <skunkworks> it will output about 140v 3phase to the amc drives
[14:20:01] <skunkworks> it will get rid of the 220v wires run from the breaker box - across the floor
[14:20:08] <skunkworks> :)
[14:30:07] <alex_joni> heh
[16:50:26] <moopy> can anyone help me out and have a very brief look at my config?
[19:21:34] <KimK_> moopy: So did you get someone to look at your config?
[19:34:06] <SWPadnos> I looked at it, but couldn't see the problem in the time allotted (a few minutes)
[19:36:54] <alex_joni> where was the config?
[19:37:09] <KimK_> OK, thanks. Didn't want to ignore him.
[19:38:41] <SWPadnos> http://pastebin.com/WxgwachD http://pastebin.com/jLJ2Hb0u
[19:39:06] <SWPadnos> I think the first has the vismach program (called "test") as well as the config
[19:39:25] <SWPadnos> I don't know enough about vismach to be able to tell if it will work by inspection
[20:02:32] <moopy> I am back and still have to worked out what is wrong with my config.
[20:04:22] <moopy> as far as i can tell is should work and the jog buttongs vcp dials and readouts work in axis, but when I run gcode the positions do not update as the tooltip moves in axis??
[20:05:40] <SWPadnos> moopy, try this: run a standard 33-axis sim config, and verify that the tool moves correctly in the AXIS preview
[20:06:25] <SWPadnos> then, copy that config and change it to load the vismach program
[20:06:54] <moopy> okay i will try that
[20:06:57] <SWPadnos> without connecting anything in HAL - just loadusr "test"
[20:07:14] <SWPadnos> verify that the tool still moves in AXIS (jog or G-code)
[20:07:39] <moopy> i have to connect the joints in hal or the vismach simulation will not move
[20:07:41] <SWPadnos> then, connect axis.[0-2].motor-pos-cmd to a few of the inputs to test
[20:07:43] <SWPadnos> I know
[20:07:47] <SWPadnos> one step at a time
[20:07:59] <SWPadnos> make sure that loading your program doesn't somehow screw up anything else
[20:08:09] <SWPadnos> (I don't think it does, but I'm being thorough)
[20:08:57] <SWPadnos> the machine will move incorrectly, but you should see some motion both for jogs and for G-code
[20:09:24] <moooop> i may have missed something my net just went down
[20:09:53] <SWPadnos> [16:07:39]<moopy>i have to connect the joints in hal or the vismach simulation will not move
[20:09:55] <SWPadnos> [16:07:41]<SWPadnos>then, connect axis.[0-2].motor-pos-cmd to a few of the inputs to test
[20:09:57] <SWPadnos> [16:07:42]I know
[20:09:58] <SWPadnos> [16:07:47]one step at a time
[20:10:00] <SWPadnos> [16:07:58]make sure that loading your program doesn't somehow screw up anything else
[20:10:01] <SWPadnos> [16:08:08](I don't think it does, but I'm being thorough)
[20:10:49] <moooop> i see what you mean,if i loadusr the vismach and the axis readouts stop updating when running gcode i know its the vismach script not the config
[20:11:34] <moooop> i may be back in an hour after i have played around with it
[20:12:24] <moooop> thanks for the input SWPannos
[20:12:37] <SWPadnos> just do things one step at a time. make a vismach program that only has one thing that moves, make sure you understand how things work for non-trivial kinematics (try the sample config vismach/max5kins), etc.
[20:12:39] <SWPadnos> sure
[20:33:36] <moooop> i just checked a sim (axis_mm) and it all seems to work fine
[20:34:02] <moooop> so my guess is that genserkins is broken somehow?
[20:34:48] <SWPadnos> now try with one of the vismach sample configs
[20:34:57] <SWPadnos> like vismach/max5kins
[20:43:34] <SWPadnos> huh. actually, I see the same thing (sim mode, vismach/max5kins.ini)
[20:46:10] <moopy> do you have the home problem problem SWP?
[20:46:35] <SWPadnos> I don't have a home problem - you have to home before you can do coordinated motion
[20:47:32] <moopy> i tried configs/myvis/max5kins.ini
[20:47:46] <SWPadnos> yep. I'm messing with it right now (in sim)
[20:48:01] <moopy> and the config only allows 'home all'?
[20:48:05] <SWPadnos> I see that AXIS doesn't move but the vismach does when first jogging around
[20:48:27] <SWPadnos> no, you can home each axis individually as well (press the "home" key with some axis selected)
[20:49:04] <SWPadnos> ah, ok. this may be expected behavior
[20:49:17] <SWPadnos> (I don't know for sure, since I don't have any experience with non-trivkins setups)
[20:49:37] <SWPadnos> the AXIS cone doesn't move until after all joints are homed
[20:50:23] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: what is the source for the cone set to?
[20:50:34] <alex_joni> commanded pos?
[20:50:58] <SWPadnos> actual / relative / joint mode
[21:32:51] <moopy> i seem unable to workout why there is a joint2 on limit switch error
[21:34:17] <alex_joni> moopy: can be a kinematics error too
[21:34:29] <alex_joni> if the axis.2.limit-* aren't active
[21:35:21] <moopy> surely the vismach demos should work 'out of the box'?
[21:35:33] <alex_joni> probably
[21:35:43] <moopy> i am trying to test on the max5kins model
[21:35:49] <SWPadnos> yes, but it's hard to find a sample G-code file that you can actually run
[21:36:15] <SWPadnos> b-index.ngc works on vismach/mak5kins
[21:36:20] <SWPadnos> max5kins
[21:45:38] <moooop> does puma560 simulation work for anyone?
[21:46:00] <alex_joni> it worked for me
[21:46:17] <moooop> i am running it in vmware
[21:46:33] <moooop> i will have to try on a real machine tommorrow
[22:00:11] <alex_joni> it worked for me in vmware
[22:05:09] <moooop> i think its probably a pebkac error then
[22:15:22] <cradek> I'm awestruck by Rick G's creativity, but adding incremental jog to halui would be a better approach...
[22:21:51] <moooop> i wish i understood what you just said cradek
[22:22:45] <moooop> i get the feeling i should go back to #emc, i dont seems to be having a lot of luck with development
[22:23:50] <moooop> it seems puma560 vismach is not part of the 2.4.3 package?
[22:24:23] <moooop> is the stuff i am looking at only in git?
[22:25:19] <andypugh> cradek was referring to a mailing list post, I think.
[22:27:04] <moooop> i am going to try downloading the latest git sources again
[22:37:32] <cradek> yeah sorry, I have a habit of commenting on mailing list stuff here
[22:37:57] <cradek> especially when I think something needs some development but I don't want to do it right now, it seems on-topic
[22:45:14] <moooop> i think unfortunatly most of this stuff is beyond me
[22:46:52] <andypugh> moooop: The trick is to never admit it, and nobody can tell.
[22:48:22] <moooop> hehehehe
[22:54:23] <SWPadnos_> SWPadnos_ is now known as SWPadnos