#emc-devel | Logs for 2010-08-05

[12:38:59] <jepler> MDI t1m6; reload tool table: loaded tool information is lost (on nonrandom machines?)
[12:40:07] <jepler> I wonder if that's related to the problem Brian is reporting..
[12:45:26] <micges_work> jepler: hi
[12:45:33] <jepler> hello
[12:46:06] <micges_work> I just wonder how much work would be adding scale rullers to preview
[12:46:32] <micges_work> to get info about how long specific line is
[12:46:48] <micges_work> simmilar to corel draw
[12:47:36] <alex_joni> micges_work: scale rulers how?
[12:47:41] <alex_joni> around the selected line?
[12:47:59] <micges_work> no on left and bottom side of preview
[12:48:27] <alex_joni> but that only works in perpendicular views (because of perspective)
[12:48:47] <micges_work> yes only on top view
[12:49:19] <jepler> I am not personally interested in such a feature, but I'd try to review it with an open mind if it was contributed.
[12:50:52] <micges_work> cool
[12:51:35] <micges_work> it should be enablable like others parts of preview
[12:52:51] <micges_work> alex_joni: ruler on selected line is also interesting
[12:57:34] <alex_joni> micges_work: something like the extents for the program (in 3D)
[12:57:39] <alex_joni> but for selected line
[12:59:48] <micges_work> I understand
[13:02:38] <jepler> important questions to answer are: what is the task the operator is performing? will the proposed display be clear and unambiguous? will it allow the operator to complete the task successfully?
[13:03:05] <jepler> Frequently there is only a distant relationship between a part drawing and a g-code coordinate, because of things like tool offsets
[13:03:37] <jepler> if you have a drawing that depicts a 1" circular pocket and you measure the G2 move with tool radius offsets in effect, you won't get an answer of 1"
[13:04:05] <jepler> that non-relationship is one reason I have trouble understanding the use of this feature
[13:04:53] <jepler> bbl, I should go do my paying job...
[13:05:50] <jepler> cradek: can you please take a look at http://emergent.unpy.net/files/sandbox/0001-Fix-current-tool-information-after-reloading-table.patch in light of the thread on tool table weirdness after reloading the tool table?
[13:07:49] <micges_work> jepler: rulers are intented to allow user to select quite precisely point when oxygen cutter stops cutting for restarting program
[13:09:01] <micges_work> operator can measure how many mm cutter ran without cutting on material and he can reflect it on preview
[13:17:53] <micges_work> (by selecting point on preview)
[15:13:36] <ries> ries is now known as rvt
[19:04:29] <robh__> hi tryed to load a HM2 setup on 10.04 from the install script, i got this http://pastebin.com/snH0z0v0
[19:06:20] <SWPadnos> libnml/buffer/physmem.cc 143: PHYSMEM_HANDLE: Can't write 10748 bytes at offset 60 from buffer of size 10208.
[19:06:33] <SWPadnos> you need to change ulimits
[19:07:30] <micges> no
[19:07:45] <robh__> throught the limits where changed now on live and install scripts
[19:07:47] <micges> he must change emc.nml
[19:07:53] <SWPadnos> oh, that could be too
[19:08:31] <micges> robh__: try remove emc.nml line from your ini file
[19:09:23] <robh__> thx micges i will check it throught i did my bad if not. will have to do in the morning now but thanks
[20:41:51] <alex_joni> the libnml error is always an emc.nml problem
[20:42:23] <alex_joni> wonder if we could extend CMS to enlarge the buffer size if needed (on the fly)
[20:43:52] <jepler> after 2.4 only people who have special needs and copy emc.nml will ever have this pain again
[20:45:03] <cradek> jepler: I don't understand what your patch fixes - did you see a problem when you tested?
[20:49:11] <alex_joni> 15:38 < jepler> MDI t1m6; reload tool table: loaded tool information is lost (on nonrandom machines?)
[20:53:27] <andypugh> I tend to use (debug, xxxxx) to tell myself what my code is about to do when I press "S". Quite often the messages won't delete themselves when I press "X". Is that common or unique to me? It is a little annoying as eventually the naughty messages occlude the pyvcp panel.
[20:53:42] <andypugh> There is an error in the terminal when that happens.
[20:53:58] <andypugh> (Which I can paste here, if you like)
[20:54:02] <jepler> please.
[20:54:14] <andypugh> Actually, perhaps I can't.
[20:54:25] <andypugh> It is in a VNC window.
[20:56:07] <andypugh> By saving a text file on a shared drive...
[20:56:11] <andypugh> Exception in Tkinter callback
[20:56:11] <andypugh> Traceback (most recent call last):
[20:56:11] <andypugh> File "/usr/lib/python2.5/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1406, in __call__
[20:56:12] <andypugh> return self.func(*args)
[20:56:12] <andypugh> File "/home/andypugh/emc2.5-dev/bin/axis", line 311, in <lambda>
[20:57:25] <andypugh> It isn't just (debug, ) messages that get stuck, it happens with error messages too
[20:57:51] <jepler> did you paste the full error?
[20:58:02] <jepler> I didn't expect it to end "... in <lambda>"
[20:58:36] <andypugh> No, that's the lot
[20:59:15] <andypugh> I get those 9 lines any time I try to clear a "stuck" message
[21:00:59] <andypugh> I now have an "unexpected RT delay" message stuck too. (I really do need to re-edit the rtai-conf to put the SMI fix back, but it gets tedious doing that every time I recompile.
[21:01:44] <micges> andypugh: your pasted error has 6 lines, and you said it was 9
[21:01:48] <andypugh> I believe there is a CTRL-key combo to clear the messages, but there is no Ctrl key on my CNC keyboard. :-)
[21:02:41] <andypugh> "exception in tkinter" to ValueError: list.... ?
[21:02:48] <jepler> there are only 5 lines in what you pasted
[21:03:01] <andypugh> I count 9
[21:03:10] <jepler> exception in, traceback, file, return, file
[21:03:18] <andypugh> I did see some throttling warnigns due to being a spammer
[21:03:31] <andypugh> Let me do it line-by line
[21:03:39] <andypugh> Exception in Tkinter callback
[21:03:55] <andypugh> Traceback (most recent call last):
[21:03:58] <andypugh> File "/usr/lib/python2.5/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1406, in __call__
[21:03:58] <andypugh> return self.func(*args)
[21:04:06] <andypugh> File "/home/andypugh/emc2.5-dev/bin/axis", line 311, in <lambda>
[21:04:06] <andypugh> command=lambda: self.remove(widgets))
[21:04:12] <andypugh> File "/home/andypugh/emc2.5-dev/bin/axis", line 320, in remove
[21:04:13] <andypugh> self.widgets.remove(widgets)
[21:04:19] <andypugh> ValueError: list.remove(x): x not in list
[21:09:38] <jepler> hmmm I tried but can't get the problem to happen
[21:09:46] <jepler> I'm just trying e.g., to hit 'R' when in estop a bunch of times
[21:09:52] <jepler> all the "little X" buttons work fine for me
[21:09:58] <andypugh> Wierd
[21:09:59] <jepler> 2.4
[21:10:18] <andypugh> I am on 2.5_pre but I have seen it with all versions.
[21:10:28] <jepler> I don't doubt there's a real problem
[21:10:44] <andypugh> Ignore it for the time being, I will mention it again if it persists with the 10.04 kernel and 2.4.3
[21:11:05] <jepler> oh, yeah, I'm on 10.04..
[21:11:38] <andypugh> I am on a kernel hand-rolled by an incompetent.
[21:11:48] <jepler> kernel is very unlikely to be related to the problem
[21:13:11] <andypugh> That is probably all that is different between my setup and any other though, and I would have thought it would prompt comment if it was a common problem.
[21:17:05] <jepler> what distro and version? What version of python?
[21:18:15] <andypugh> <hangs head in shame> How do I find out?
[21:18:37] <jepler> actually, I do see something fishy. want to let me know if this change makes any difference? http://pastebin.com/SKvWpVtR
[21:18:51] <jepler> print Python version: 'python -V'
[21:20:44] <andypugh> python 2.5.2
[21:22:00] <jepler> Ubuntu 8.04, then?
[21:22:26] <andypugh> Yes
[21:29:15] <andypugh> That change didn't make any difference (assuming there is no need to recompile to make it stick, and that I edited the correct instance of axis.py)
[21:30:09] <jepler> for rip, edit src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py and 'make'
[21:30:11] <jepler> bbkl
[21:30:43] <skunkworks> be back kinda late?
[21:31:23] <andypugh> Ah, OK. I didn't "make"
[21:31:26] <andypugh> Bear with me
[21:34:19] <mshaver1> lucid/2.4.3/AXIS - Has anyone else experienced a situation where information messages (like those displayed when a MSG comment runs, or a limit is hit) can't be cleared?
[21:36:09] <micges> mshaver1: yes, andypugh noticed it too
[21:36:41] <micges> jepler prepared some fast patch to check: http://pastebin.com/SKvWpVtR
[21:36:45] <andypugh> I am trying out a potential solution as we speak. (And I am glad I am not the only one)
[21:38:53] <andypugh> It might be solved, but I am managing to get into a situation where no messages come up.
[21:39:19] <andypugh> But that might be related to what I was doing earlier.
[21:40:40] <mshaver1> yea - it's good to know you're not the only one having this hallucination
[21:41:24] <andypugh> It drives me mad, as I have a bunch of buttons for different ops, that pop up a message saying what they are going to do. On top of themselves....
[21:42:09] <andypugh> Eventually when I can't see the buttons any more, I have to restart.
[21:44:43] <micges> andypugh: Axis have hal pin, on which peak cause notification area to cleat
[21:44:44] <micges> r
[21:46:36] <micges> ui.notifications-clear
[21:47:51] <andypugh> So there is! it works too :-)
[21:49:51] <micges> good night al
[21:49:52] <micges> l
[23:38:41] <mozmck> Finally have a little time tonight - I'm going to try to wrap up the loose ends on the livecd.
[23:39:01] <JT-Hardinge> cool
[23:39:02] <cradek> yay!
[23:39:05] <alex_joni> yay
[23:39:08] <cradek> yell if we can help.
[23:39:14] <alex_joni> mozmck: just remember: http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l501mjXiSv1qz5xv6o1_400.jpg
[23:40:01] <JT-Hardinge> redrum redrum
[23:40:02] <mozmck> will do. Anything I missed in the last few days I need to know?
[23:40:34] <mozmck> alex_joni: heh, I'm probably dull! I need to take a break again sometime here.
[23:40:41] <cradek> all I remember is sources.list and ... uh something else
[23:41:01] <alex_joni> md5sum.txt
[23:41:04] <cradek> right
[23:41:08] <cradek> (thanks)
[23:41:11] <alex_joni> and theme
[23:41:16] <alex_joni> (if possible)
[23:41:24] <cradek> I don't know if you can fix that
[23:41:26] <mozmck> yeah, I have those written down, and installeing mesa-utils for glxgears
[23:41:58] <mozmck> I'll see if I can change the theme. What to? Clearlooks? That will put the buttons back where they should be.
[23:42:13] <alex_joni> yeah, clearlooks is fine
[23:42:15] <mozmck> bbl, need to eat!
[23:42:19] <alex_joni> that's the blue one, right?
[23:42:48] <cradek> anything that shows the difference between 'in' and 'out' buttons
[23:43:17] <alex_joni> to be checked with touchy
[23:56:11] <alex_joni> good night all