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[03:03:21] <Dave911_> Dave911_ is now known as Dave911
[05:37:31] <tom3p> for component 'edge', hal show param lists more params than the source. i am running halcmd from a rip after '. scripts/emc-environment' . am i running some other code than whats in the src dir?
[05:41:49] <tom3p> i cannot change the pulse width setp edge.0.out-width-ns 1 shows same halscope trace as setp edge.0.out-width-ns 1000
[12:54:10] <jepler> tom3p: no output pulse can be smaller than the period of the thread that creates it
[12:59:38] <skunkworks> is that true with doublestep or whatever stepgen does now?
[13:27:34] <CIA-13> EMC: 03jthornton 07master * rf0b1d1082646 10/docs/src/config/stepconf.lyx: Add info on min screen resolution for Stepconf
[13:28:42] <alex_joni> morning jthornton
[13:29:11] <jthornton> in dev you can use either the port number or the hex address with hal_paraport?
[13:29:15] <jthornton> morning alex_joni
[13:30:39] <jthornton> * jthornton heads up to shower be back in a bit
[13:32:08] <jepler> skunkworks: you're right that I wasn't thinking about doublestep (parport reset) but tom3p was talking about observing the trace in halscope
[13:51:53] <alex_joni> jthornton: any luck with that last night?
[14:06:03] <jepler> jthornton: yes basically
[14:06:03] <jepler> http://mid.gmane.org/20090921021702.GA19990@unpythonic.net
[14:07:43] <jthornton> alex_joni: I just looked at it for a moment this morning
[14:08:44] <jthornton> * jthornton heads off to work now
[14:08:53] <CIA-13> EMC: 03jthornton 07master * r9e95ce54e0ee 10/docs/src/hal/drivers.lyx: Add info about using port numbers with hal_paraport
[14:45:07] <jepler> weird -- on those last two commits, lyx added an extra "author" line
[14:45:07] <jepler> \author ""
[14:45:07] <jepler> +\author ""
[14:47:01] <SWPadnos> oh huh. I had noticed that, but missed that it was an additional line. I thought there was some difference I couldn't see or something
[14:52:56] <alex_joni> anyone speak gherkin?
http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/gherkin
[15:37:48] <alex_joni> When I start a newprogramm a Emc crashes with following error.greetings from Italy
[15:37:59] <alex_joni> don't think I've seen that error before :D
[15:38:05] <SWPadnos> heh
[15:39:37] <jepler> it took me a minute, but now I understand
[16:47:10] <CIA-13> EMC: 03seb 073x20 * re5b75002392f 10/src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/firmware/src/regmap: switch from dos to unix line endings
[16:47:15] <CIA-13> EMC: 03seb 073x20 * r31b8b22b6af5 10/src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/firmware/src/regmap: better PD description
[16:53:10] <cradek> wow, the 3x20 looks cool
[16:54:02] <cradek> (ow, not cheap though)
[17:02:25] <cradek> looks like it gives the equivalent of 6 of the usual IO cables (2 x 5i20)
[17:02:37] <jepler> yeah, I think that's right
[17:04:10] <cradek> I guess maybe 377 is not that high then
[17:04:20] <cradek> (can anyone see 377 and not think octal?)
[17:07:09] <jepler> you also need a 6i68 or 7i68 to interface with the standard 50-pin connectors .. and a machine with PCIE, which I suppose is any recent PC
[17:10:42] <cradek> heh, I'm sure I don't have a single one at home...
[17:10:58] <jepler> that's the same as what I said, right?
[17:11:04] <cradek> most of mine do have AGP slots though, virtually all have PCI :-)
[17:11:06] <cradek> yep exactly
[17:11:38] <cradek> if pcw was only making stuff I'd buy, he'd be out of business...
[17:11:51] <cradek> I'm glad he's keeping current
[17:19:12] <jepler> looks like my last two motherboards (2007, 2009) both have PCI Express slots
[17:28:18] <Jymmm> jepler: Mine have 8bit ISA =)
[17:29:00] <cradek> model name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
[17:29:06] <cradek> ^ my newest machine, I think
[17:29:28] <cradek> pretty sure it's still agp
[17:30:40] <cradek> do mboards have more than one pcie now? I thought that was for video cards.
[17:30:57] <cradek> hey I bet I could ask the internet that...
[17:31:13] <Jymmm> Yeah, PCIe x16 is usually video, but there an also be PCIe x 8
[17:31:15] <SWPadnos> usually around 4-6, with some mix of 16, 4, and 1 lane slots
[17:31:39] <SWPadnos> I haven't seen an 8-lane slot, usually they use a 16-lane slot with only 8 lanes electrically connected
[19:00:27] <micges> is params to pin conversion is still acceptable in all *.comp files?
[19:07:06] <jepler> my recollection of our last discussion is that it had to be on a case-by-case basis; the actual code has to be considered
[19:07:43] <jepler> I think we discussed some components which (sometimes) set values of parameters, e.g., to restrict them to a certain rainge. This is an example of a parameter that can't be changed to an in pin
[19:12:28] <micges> mhm
[19:12:30] <micges> ok
[19:13:43] <CIA-13> EMC: 03seb 073x20 * r240e49ef9f9b 10/src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/hostmot2.c: fix a silly mistake in a sanity check
[19:13:45] <CIA-13> EMC: 03seb 073x20 * r5a28f71355c1 10/src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/firmware/src/regmap: fix an off-by-one error in the docs
[19:59:23] <jepler> oh this is great -- it's now possible for anonymous people to bitch about your sf project right on its main page.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/tboot/
[20:00:36] <cradek> lovely
[20:00:55] <cradek> you can log in to rate the review
[20:01:05] <cradek> fucking web 2.0
[20:01:14] <cradek> when will this blow over??
[20:01:49] <jepler> I looked around in admin settings and I don't see a way to disable that particular feature
[21:09:12] <tush726> is there any documentation for how the source tree is arranged ?
[21:11:33] <cradek> no
[21:11:50] <cradek> (and if there is, it's out of date)
[21:12:18] <tush726> i have no knowledge about the working of mechanical devices. a c programmer
[21:12:46] <tush726> how can i get started with contribution ?
[21:13:42] <cradek> there are some hints here:
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Git#Share_your_changes_with_others
[21:14:05] <tush726> okay will have a look and get back
[21:14:09] <tush726> thanks
[21:14:19] <cradek> that's how to contribute, not what -- what is generally determined by the contributor's interests and more specifically what s/he wants EMC to do that it doesn't already do
[21:14:50] <cradek> (I'm not sure which question tush was asking)
[21:15:07] <cradek> hit and run!
[21:21:54] <SWPadnos> I'm glad tush was in here as well as on #emc - I was annoyed that the only answer (s)he got there was a sarcastic one from MattyMatt
[21:23:08] <cradek> oh I didn't see that at all
[21:24:07] <cradek> welllll I kind of agree - I thought it was an odd first question too
[21:24:22] <cradek> but whatever, I kept the snide a lot lower
[21:25:27] <SWPadnos> there was a tree of sorts at one point, but I'm not sure how informative it is
[21:25:42] <cradek> yeah that kind of "documentation" is just stupid
[21:26:02] <cradek> THE DIRS ARE LIKE THIS: $(find . -type d)
[21:26:14] <cradek> THERE ARE SOME FILES TOO: $(find . -type f|sort)
[21:26:14] <SWPadnos> well, yes and no - I think it had comments like "kernel modules" and "interpreter code"
[21:26:28] <SWPadnos> added to the dir listing :)
[21:26:44] <cradek> sorry, my snide is coming out
[21:27:05] <SWPadnos> heh
[21:27:16] <SWPadnos> it's OK - I'm mostly immune
[21:42:28] <jepler> only mostly? we'll have to work on toughening you up
[21:42:29] <jepler> you moron
[21:42:57] <SWPadnos> hey - I have the flu
[21:43:04] <SWPadnos> that reduces immunity to other things
[21:43:09] <SWPadnos> dickhead
[21:43:13] <cradek> and it's your own fault for being so thin-skinned
[21:43:29] <cradek> (sorry to hear that, actually)
[21:43:50] <SWPadnos> I may be getting over it, but I would have been smarter to have stayed in bed again today
[22:18:44] <Dave911> SWPadnos: H1N1 or not ? My brother in law has had the H1N1 along with his son already.. no hospitals required just drugs
[22:18:55] <SWPadnos> no idea
[22:19:16] <SWPadnos> it seems like it's hard to tell the difference without a doctor's help
[22:19:46] <Dave911> Might be ... I know it was bad enough for him to go to the doc pretty fast..
[22:20:15] <Dave911> I hope you get well quickly - that H1N1 is pretty nasty I was told.
[22:22:33] <SWPadnos> whatever it is, I've had it since Sunday
[22:25:15] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: ouch
[22:25:49] <alex_joni> sounds like there's a lot of flu going on this year
[22:25:53] <alex_joni> not just H1N1
[22:56:37] <Dave911> Very true...