#emc-devel | Logs for 2009-02-28

[20:50:27] <tissf> ohhhh ! here 18°C :)
[20:50:27] <alex_joni> tissf: hi
[20:50:36] <tissf> hello Alex
[20:50:37] <alex_joni> hope those 18C get here fast
[20:50:46] <alex_joni> been waiting on them for a couple of days :D
[20:51:10] <alex_joni> tissf: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Emc2.3Status
[20:51:57] <BigJohnT> * BigJohnT takes off his shoes and socks to figure out what 18C is :0
[20:52:04] <tissf> ah yes I follow
[20:52:08] <BigJohnT> it's -1C here
[20:52:25] <alex_joni> not a good temp to take off your socks :D
[20:52:39] <BigJohnT> ya gotta be quick!
[20:52:52] <tissf> outch ! You are in Canada John ?
[20:53:02] <BigJohnT> no, swamp east Missouri
[20:53:17] <BigJohnT> smak dab in the middle
[20:54:24] <alex_joni> jepler: let me know when it finished building/uploading so I can rebuild & sign the repo
[20:54:52] <tissf> The weather goes east, it reaches you next days Alex
[20:55:05] <alex_joni> tissf: I know.. but it's been snowing here for the last 2 months
[20:55:11] <alex_joni> and that is _very_ unusual :)
[20:56:52] <tissf> Alex_joni: ! Can you tel me if the french documentation will install itself on the V2.3 ?
[20:57:39] <alex_joni> I'm not sure what you mean
[20:57:45] <tissf> on french PC of course
[20:58:12] <alex_joni> you mean that on a french localized PC there's a different menu entry pointing to the french documentation?
[20:58:34] <tissf> yes exactly
[20:58:35] <cradek> BigJohnT: unfortunately, that's a feature - it can't work otherwise
[20:58:44] <cradek> it will move if you do another g1
[20:58:53] <BigJohnT> ok thanks cradek
[20:59:19] <cradek> the problem is: what if you make a concave corner with the subsequent move? you would have already gouged
[20:59:27] <cradek> so, it waits to move until it knows for sure
[20:59:45] <cradek> (not sure I recommend using cutter comp in mdi...)
[21:01:17] <BigJohnT> I was just testing it out to see the results :)
[21:01:39] <alex_joni> BigJohnT: remember the general rule, if you break it, you get to fix it :)
[21:01:44] <BigJohnT> so the first move needs both the X and Y axis?
[21:01:50] <BigJohnT> np alex_joni
[21:01:52] <cradek> once you understand how/why the moves are deferred, I'd be interested in knowing if it works how you expect...
[21:02:04] <cradek> no I don't think the first move has any requirement like that
[21:02:31] <BigJohnT> hmmm
[21:02:58] <jepler> alex_joni: hm, the transfer failed
[21:13:32] <BigJohnT> cradek: cutter comp behaves as I expect from a program but not from the mdi... should I note to not use cutter comp from mdi?
[21:14:42] <cradek> is it surprising in another way besides the delaying of each move by one?
[21:15:59] <BigJohnT> it just doesn't move unless there is both an X and Y and they are at least (I guess) a cutter diameter away...
[21:16:57] <cradek> that's surprising...
[21:17:14] <tissf> Alex_joni: For v2.2.8 and preceding, the documentation installs itself in English on the French localized PC. It would be a big progress that she installs herself in French.
[21:17:40] <BigJohnT> LOL suprised me too
[21:17:45] <cradek> lemme play a bit
[21:17:51] <BigJohnT> ok
[21:18:00] <alex_joni> tissf: not sure how that can be done
[21:19:40] <tissf> alex_joni: I talk about the links in the menu Applications> CNC
[21:20:17] <cradek> I think you just need to add translated strings to those .desktop files
[21:20:18] <tissf> alex_joni: They point towards the docs in English.
[21:20:28] <jepler> as far as I can tell there's no way to make the thing launched by an item in the application menu depend on the user's language
[21:20:32] <cradek> oh, sorry, I misunderstood
[21:21:17] <jepler> we could write a program that tries to look at the user's language and launch the right pdf file, but someone would have to write and test it and convince me it's bulletproof
[21:21:27] <tissf> alex_joni: Yes of course but that would have this done automagicaly
[21:22:15] <alex_joni> tissf: I understand what you want, but the only solution I can think of is the one jepler just suggested
[21:22:46] <tissf> alex_joni: OK sorry ! thanks
[21:22:48] <alex_joni> or (not a nice solution either) build packages which are already localized
[21:23:00] <alex_joni> (have -fr links instead of the -en ones)
[21:23:31] <jepler> I can't think of a solution that is not too late for 2.3 -- for instance, splitting docs by language? too late. sorry.
[21:23:41] <jepler> (separate packages, that is)
[21:24:22] <tissf> This is not a big problem but...
[21:25:05] <jepler> alex_joni: OK, I think the package upload is complete
[21:26:12] <alex_joni> grabbing them now
[21:29:16] <tissf> Thank you guys for your work and your availability.
[21:30:04] <alex_joni> jepler: rebuilt the repo and uploaded everything
[21:34:10] <cradek> huh, I get extremely strange paths with comp in mdi
[21:35:45] <BigJohnT> me three
[21:37:20] <tissf> bye all
[21:37:28] <alex_joni> bye tissf
[21:42:54] <cradek> wtf!
[21:43:16] <alex_joni> cradek: comp?
[21:43:24] <cradek> in mdi
[21:43:30] <cradek> very puzzling
[21:44:01] <cradek> it makes mostly deranged arcs, but they aren't caught for some reason - all the straight moves are missing
[21:56:49] <CIA-2> EMC: 03alex_joni 07TRUNK * 10emc2/configs/SherlineLathe/ (SherlineLathe_inch.ini SherlineLathe_mm.ini): remove OUTPUT_SCALE as it's not used
[21:57:27] <CIA-2> EMC: 03alex_joni 07TRUNK * 10emc2/configs/Sherline3Axis/ (Sherline3Axis_inch.ini Sherline3Axis_mm.ini): remove OUTPUT_SCALE as it's not used
[21:57:33] <BigJohnT> make: *** [checkref_en] Error 1 :/ I hate when that happens
[21:57:41] <CIA-2> EMC: 03alex_joni 07TRUNK * 10emc2/configs/Sherline4Axis/ (Sherline4Axis_inch.ini Sherline4Axis_mm.ini): remove OUTPUT_SCALE as it's not used
[22:08:55] <CIA-2> EMC: 03bigjohnt 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/gcode/main.lyx: clean up
[22:09:06] <CIA-2> EMC: 03bigjohnt 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/lathe/lathe-user.lyx: clean up
[22:21:42] <CIA-2> EMC: 03bigjohnt 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/gcode/main.lyx: that looks better in the pdf
[23:30:39] <CIA-2> EMC: 03alex_joni 07TRUNK * 10emc2/src/Makefile.inc.in: add datarootdir, silences a warning with newer autoconf generated configure scripts