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[00:00:05] <alex_joni> setting up?
[00:01:08] <alex_joni> ok, classicladder docs sounds like a good idea
[00:01:21] <alex_joni> I'll work on this tomorrow
[00:01:29] <alex_joni> (if you didn't finish it by then *grin*)
[00:01:45] <fenn> no i got disgusted and dropped it
[00:01:57] <alex_joni> guess I'll do it then :P
[00:02:28] <alex_joni> good night now
[00:02:35] <fenn> nite
[00:02:44] <alex_joni> * alex_joni has to hide, sun is coming up soon
[01:29:53] <tomp> where do i find the docs on strtod strtol strtoul? i want the format and wont be using C.
[01:31:07] <cradek> the man pages are best for that
[01:31:42] <cradek> on ubuntu you install the manpages-dev package to get them
[01:34:36] <tomp> man strtod yeilds nothing, and i can compile emc
[01:34:55] <tomp> oh, in stall manpages-dev ok
[01:35:24] <tomp> thanks
[14:11:10] <jepler> alex_joni: did you find the solution to the lyx-qt problem?
[14:11:42] <jepler> clearly I didn't test my change well enough
[14:14:55] <alex_joni> jepler: I hope I did
[14:15:02] <alex_joni> can you check if it still works for gutsy?
[14:15:36] <alex_joni> (the issue is when you use a AC_PATH_PROG test with the same name, LYX in this case, it doesn't perform the second test, but assumes the result from the first)
[14:16:21] <jepler> alex_joni: the gutsy machine is turned off right now
[14:18:50] <alex_joni> when you get a chance, no hurry
[14:18:51] <alex_joni> I checked the change in
[14:19:09] <jepler> OK
[14:40:44] <jmkasunich__> morning folks
[14:41:24] <jmkasunich__> jmkasunich__ is now known as jmkasunich
[15:07:25] <jepler> have a good day all
[16:05:46] <wh173y> hi
[16:05:52] <wh173y> anyone here?
[16:26:13] <wh173y> little help would be appreciated
[16:31:44] <alex_joni> wh173y: I am now
[16:32:08] <wh173y> i have a question
[16:32:16] <alex_joni> dataja
[16:32:47] <wh173y> i'm currently building a cnc router and i want to use an old laptop to rum emc 2
[16:33:06] <wh173y> only problem is that the thing dosen't have any network device
[16:33:41] <wh173y> is there some place where i can find precompiled packages of emc2 + dependencies?
[16:33:49] <alex_joni> for what platform?
[16:33:53] <wh173y> xubuntu
[16:33:59] <alex_joni> oh, sure
[16:34:14] <alex_joni> xubuntu 6.06 should be ok
[16:34:28] <alex_joni> http://www.linuxcnc.org/emc2/dists/dapper/emc2.1/binary-i386/
[16:34:37] <alex_joni> here are the emc2 + some of the deps
[16:34:52] <alex_joni> like kernel & rtai
[16:35:15] <wh173y> so if i burn the files to cd it should be ok?
[16:35:53] <alex_joni> yeah, you can dpkg -i /path/to/files/*
[16:35:55] <wh173y> or does emc 2 require other external packages?
[16:36:07] <alex_joni> hang on
[16:36:09] <alex_joni> looking for a list now
[16:36:13] <wh173y> sure
[16:36:30] <alex_joni> tcl8.4,tk8.4,libreadline5, python2.4-numarray, python2.4-imaging, python2.4-imaging-tk, python (>= 2.4), python (<< 2.5), emc2, ${python:Depends}, bwidget (>= 1.7), bwidget (<<1.8), python2.4-tk,python2.4-xml
[16:36:54] <alex_joni> you can find those at:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/
[16:37:06] <alex_joni> gotta run now ..
[16:37:05] <wh173y> ok, thanks a million
[16:37:13] <alex_joni> np, next time just ask in here
[16:37:18] <wh173y> sure
[16:37:20] <alex_joni> when someone is around we answer ..
[16:37:30] <wh173y> glad to know
[16:37:34] <alex_joni> just be patient ;)
[16:37:43] <wh173y> oh, i AM very patient
[16:37:45] <wh173y> :)
[16:37:55] <alex_joni> or ask again if you see activity but no-one answered
[16:37:58] <alex_joni> bbl
[16:38:12] <wh173y> kk, thanks again
[17:25:16] <alex_joni> * alex_joni is back
[18:04:58] <wh173y> need help again
[18:05:17] <wh173y> does anyone know where i can find the blt-common package?
[18:07:00] <alex_joni> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/virtual/blt-common
[18:07:10] <alex_joni> blt-common is a virtual package
[18:07:12] <alex_joni> try blt instead
[18:09:42] <wh173y> if i try to install blt it sais it has a dependency error
[18:10:36] <wh173y> Dependency is not satisfiable: blt-common
[18:36:07] <alex_joni> wh173y: what's the exact error?
[18:36:27] <wh173y> nevermind, i used the debian deb and it worked
[18:37:31] <alex_joni> ok
[18:37:44] <alex_joni> but be carefull.. mixing debian & ubuntu packages leads to trouble
[18:38:06] <wh173y> i know, hope it works
[19:35:25] <wh173y> anyone know how i can downgrade from python 2.5 to 2.4?
[19:35:49] <fenn> sudo apt-get install python2.4
[19:35:55] <fenn> sudo apt-get remove python2.5
[19:36:07] <fenn> you shouldnt have to downgrade though
[19:36:14] <wh173y> i actually need to
[19:36:23] <wh173y> to install emc2
[19:36:30] <fenn> why is that?
[19:36:47] <wh173y> i noticed that my friend instaled 7.10
[19:37:09] <wh173y> and if i want to remove python 2.5 it'll wipe my system
[19:37:12] <fenn> i think you will have other problems on 7.10
[19:37:34] <wh173y> damn
[19:37:39] <SWPadnos> there are experimental packages for 7.10
[19:37:42] <alex_joni> first of all that the kernel & rtai packages aren't available
[19:37:42] <fenn> but again, why do you need to remove python2.5?
[19:37:44] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: sim
[19:37:58] <wh173y> cause it won't install the 2.4 version over it
[19:38:01] <alex_joni> and experimental packages.. but I don't think there are any emc2 packages
[19:38:11] <alex_joni> wh173y: and emc2 is complaining about 2.5?
[19:38:16] <alex_joni> it should work with 2.5 too
[19:38:17] <SWPadnos> http://www.linuxcnc.org/experimental/gutsy/
[19:38:25] <SWPadnos> there are RT kernel packages and EMC2 packages there
[19:38:34] <SWPadnos> as I said, they're experimental though :)
[19:38:44] <SWPadnos> use at your own risk, and please report problems ...
[19:38:46] <alex_joni> wh173y: SWPadnos will be your point of support for them :D
[19:38:47] <wh173y> sure thing
[19:38:53] <SWPadnos> no way man!
[19:38:58] <SWPadnos> jepler did it
[19:39:01] <alex_joni> too late ;)
[19:39:02] <SWPadnos> it's not my fault
[19:39:10] <wh173y> it's not like the machine will be actually used
[19:39:11] <alex_joni> you talked about it :D
[19:39:17] <wh173y> for productivity
[19:39:18] <fenn> * fenn oinks at SWPadnos
[19:39:19] <SWPadnos> sudo scrollback --delete-the-last-few-lines
[19:39:20] <SWPadnos> pig
[19:39:26] <fenn> chicken
[19:39:33] <wh173y> cow
[19:39:34] <SWPadnos> oinks are from pigs, mister!
[19:39:45] <alex_joni> * alex_joni kicks wh173y
[19:39:52] <alex_joni> no cows here
[19:39:54] <SWPadnos> * SWPadnos leaves again
[19:39:58] <fenn> a pig and a chicken decide to open a restaurant
[19:40:06] <SWPadnos> but it's no kosher!
[19:40:09] <SWPadnos> n
[19:40:10] <SWPadnos> not
[19:40:11] <fenn> 'lets call it "ham & eggs"'
[19:40:23] <wh173y> so where's the knock knock?
[19:40:30] <SWPadnos> how about Schweienflesch and ovum
[19:40:30] <fenn> but the pig didnt like the idea so much
[19:40:42] <fenn> 'I would be committed, whereas you would just be involved"
[19:42:46] <wh173y> SWPadnos are you german?
[19:42:56] <SWPadnos> nope
[19:43:03] <SWPadnos> but I have a sister who lives in Gottingen
[19:43:10] <fenn> i think he just likes the word schweienflesch
[19:43:30] <wh173y> i'm austrian
[19:43:37] <SWPadnos> lovely country, Austria
[19:43:47] <wh173y> schnitzel is also very popular
[19:43:56] <SWPadnos> (at least the part I've been in on the train from Munict ro Florence)
[19:43:58] <alex_joni> wh173y: where in austria?
[19:44:06] <wh173y> freistadt
[19:44:12] <alex_joni> oh cool
[19:44:15] <wh173y> upper austria
[19:44:15] <SWPadnos> Munich to Florence
[19:44:48] <alex_joni> that's near linz, right?
[19:44:52] <wh173y> yupp
[19:45:06] <wh173y> appx 47 km
[19:45:09] <SWPadnos> hmmm. there's a Linux/RT conference coming up in Linz
[19:45:18] <alex_joni> schöne Gegend
[19:45:21] <SWPadnos> I'm considering attending
[19:45:32] <wh173y> cool, we should meet then
[19:45:39] <wh173y> ja, wirklich schön
[19:45:38] <SWPadnos> if I make it there, definitely
[19:45:59] <wh173y> i'm attending school in linz
[19:46:05] <SWPadnos> nice
[19:46:17] <wh173y> the cnc router is my degree project
[19:46:30] <SWPadnos> oh. in that case we shouldn't help you ;)
[19:46:35] <alex_joni> haha
[19:46:39] <wh173y> aw come on
[19:46:45] <fenn> you should be writing code for emc!
[19:46:52] <alex_joni> right ÖD
[19:46:55] <wh173y> it's for the good of linux and open source
[19:46:56] <SWPadnos> ja
[19:47:03] <alex_joni> genau
[19:47:19] <wh173y> mechanical engineers aren'T very good at coding
[19:47:47] <alex_joni> that's unfortunately true
[19:47:55] <alex_joni> * alex_joni had a chance to test that
[19:48:07] <wh173y> but we can do other cool stuff
[19:48:18] <alex_joni> build a tree-house?
[19:48:26] <fenn> make banana smoothies?
[19:48:41] <alex_joni> fenn: make banana smoothies inside a tree-house
[19:48:46] <fenn> that's hi tech
[19:48:58] <wh173y> we can calculate the statics of a tree house and the optimal viscosity of smoothies
[19:49:07] <fenn> because you're up in a tree, see
[19:49:14] <wh173y> true, makes sense
[19:49:35] <alex_joni> lol
[19:49:44] <alex_joni> as fun as this is.. gotta pack
[19:49:49] <alex_joni> bbl
[19:55:29] <wh173y> quick question: do i need the linux-image-2.6.22.6-magma_0.linuxcnc.1_i386.deb to run emc?
[19:56:22] <fenn> yes
[19:56:30] <wh173y> then i'm screwed
[19:56:38] <fenn> why's that
[19:57:29] <wh173y> well, i only have 157 MB free on my gigantic 2 GB hdd
[19:58:44] <wh173y> gotta see if i can make some room