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[00:50:47] <jepler> hm -- the qt4 build errored out on the packaging step
[00:51:02] <jepler> dh_install -plibqt4-dev --sourcedir=debian/tmp --exclude=.debug
[00:51:03] <jepler> cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp//usr/bin/qdbusxml2cpp': No such file or directory
[00:51:39] <jepler> oh well
[00:51:44] <jepler> my ability to care just ran out
[01:06:11] <jmkasunich> hi guys
[01:09:47] <cradek> hi
[01:10:09] <jepler> hi jmk
[01:10:14] <cradek> I just got home
[01:10:19] <jepler> hi chris
[01:10:29] <cradek> wonder how swp did getting that stuff to the printer
[01:10:50] <jepler> he said something about it but I forget what
[01:10:52] <jepler> try scrolling back
[01:11:00] <jmkasunich> "I dropped it off at the printer, and we got things pretty much the way you'd expect. The quick ref had very small print when I just rotated/printed it on my printer, which is what I had hoped to be able to change.
[01:11:00] <jmkasunich> "
[01:11:04] <jmkasunich> from an email to me
[01:11:16] <jmkasunich> and "They should have it done on Friday (though she chuckled when I mentioned I need it then"
[01:11:27] <cradek> huh, I thought it was pretty readable...
[01:12:23] <jmkasunich> I tried to print it two up here (last night) but I wound up with one tiny copy
[01:12:33] <jmkasunich> wasn't about to fight with printers at 0330
[01:13:05] <jmkasunich> the one tiny copy is 4.25" tall, and pretty much impossible to read without magnification
[01:13:20] <jmkasunich> expanded to 8" tall, it will be a little smaller than ideal, but I hope usable
[01:13:49] <jmkasunich> the bifocal portion of the CNC workshop crowd won't be thrilled
[01:14:22] <jmkasunich> I so wish I could have redone the ref guide in easycad - much much better control over what you get
[01:15:03] <jmkasunich> what do you think of my operators and owords sections?
[01:15:53] <jepler> I only glanced at it, but it looked OK
[01:16:02] <jepler> certainly much better than the snippet I had on the html quick ref
[01:16:26] <jmkasunich> cradek made a bigger snippet, which I elaborated on
[01:17:01] <jepler> thanks so much to you guys for doing the rest
[01:17:14] <jepler> I really dropped the ball after making the initial suggestion
[01:17:22] <jepler> I hope the final results are good
[01:17:34] <jmkasunich> well, you made the initial ref, which was the key to the whole thing
[01:17:40] <jmkasunich> so we'll let you slide (this time)
[01:17:57] <jepler> hah
[01:20:41] <jepler> anybody remember where that mexican restaurant was?
[01:21:20] <jepler> ooh have to check this out: Landmark Cafe & Creperie (62 S Seminary)
[01:21:40] <jmkasunich> the mexican place was on the main north/south drag
[01:22:06] <jepler> I think 62 S Seminary is just north of the hotel
[01:22:05] <jmkasunich> I think that place is within walking distance of the hotel, as is the one we went to last year
[01:22:56] <cradek> hope our motel is ok - we're all in it together
[01:23:13] <cradek> jepler can rightfully blame me, but nobody else can
[01:23:24] <jmkasunich> S seminary is not N of the hotel ;-)
[01:24:06] <jmkasunich> 4 blocks E, 1/2 block S
[01:24:28] <jepler> my mistake -- only took a split-second look at the map
[01:25:05] <jmkasunich> I wonder if the hotel has normal hotel phones?
[01:25:45] <jmkasunich> that let you just dial and add it to the bill at a semi-crazy rate, as opposed to motel 6 phones, where you get to call collect at some crazy rate
[01:26:06] <jepler> I dunno -- I expected to use my cellphone
[01:26:19] <cradek> yeah me too
[01:26:21] <jepler> my phone even worked out at the workshop
[01:26:21] <jmkasunich> so did I, until I found out that the bastards canceled my account
[01:26:35] <jepler> ouch - surprise!
[01:26:39] <jmkasunich> I have one of those "pay for what you use" phones
[01:26:39] <cradek> just go to any check-cashing store or pawn shop and get a new one
[01:27:02] <jmkasunich> but apparently that means "pay for what you use, as long as its at least $100 per year"
[01:27:21] <jepler> feel free to borrow mine -- I've built up a substantial unused balance for the reason you cite
[01:27:41] <jmkasunich> if you don't use the money you put in it, the money expires, which annoyed me but I could live with
[01:27:58] <jmkasunich> but if you let it all expire, the kill the account a couple months later
[01:28:30] <jepler> on my network (virgin mobile) the cash doesn't expire, but they cancel or invalidate the account if you don't put in more money for some period of time
[01:29:24] <jmkasunich> I'm planning on reopening the account - was gonna do it last night, but they had rolled up the sidewalks by the time I got around to it
[01:29:38] <jmkasunich> if I put $100 in it, it won't expire for a year
[01:29:53] <jepler> OK -- if not, my offer still stands
[01:30:04] <jmkasunich> and the account won't disappear for 14 monthes or so, which is long enough that I'll use it again first
[01:30:24] <jmkasunich> I appreciate the offer, but I hate bumming phones and such from people
[01:32:11] <cradek> bbl
[01:32:16] <jmkasunich> later
[01:49:55] <SWPadnos> hi guys
[01:50:25] <SWPadnos> yep - the packet is off at the printer, and I stayed there while she fiddled with placement
[01:56:13] <jmkasunich> the front page wound up readable I hope?
[01:56:20] <SWPadnos> I hope so too ;)
[01:56:31] <SWPadnos> the text was a bit small from my printer
[01:56:46] <SWPadnos> when she did a test print on their laser, it was better, but still not ideal
[01:56:46] <jmkasunich> didn't see the end result of the fiddling?
[01:57:12] <SWPadnos> I asked her to enlarge it a bit - basically make it as big as possible
[01:57:32] <SWPadnos> I didn't see the final result, but what I saw was "good enough"
[01:57:53] <jmkasunich> good enough will have to do
[01:58:06] <SWPadnos> I went with the 3 mil plastic - I guess I was in a cheapskate sort of mood
[01:58:24] <SWPadnos> it'll be printed on "cover stock" - sometihng like 100-120 # weight
[01:58:30] <jmkasunich> that sounds good to me
[01:58:37] <SWPadnos> so it should be pretty stiff once the plastic goe son
[01:58:41] <SWPadnos> goes on
[01:58:41] <jmkasunich> is it 3 mils per layer of plastic?
[01:58:46] <SWPadnos> yes, I think so
[01:59:37] <SWPadnos> I also asked for a 1" laminated edge on the top, so we can put holes in that
[01:59:49] <jmkasunich> cool
[02:00:00] <jmkasunich> folks that don't want a hole can fix that with a pair of scissors
[02:00:16] <SWPadnos> hmmm. I may have forgotten to ask her to not drill the pages if the top border can be 1"
[02:00:19] <SWPadnos> oh well
[02:00:34] <SWPadnos> err - top edge
[02:00:38] <jmkasunich> I guess the plastic must not come in pre-cut sheets, or that border wouldn't be an option
[02:00:44] <SWPadnos> no, I think it's a long roll
[02:01:12] <SWPadnos> they do things like menus and stuff, so there isn't really a small set of standard sizes
[02:03:51] <jmkasunich> welcome to the CNC Cafe
[02:04:00] <SWPadnos> heh
[02:04:08] <SWPadnos> would you like to start with some fresh G0?
[02:04:13] <jmkasunich> we have a wonderfull selection of chips on todays menu, can I suggest the titanium for those of you on a diet?
[02:04:39] <SWPadnos> with a touch of oil-based coolant on top
[02:08:02] <cradek> whee, I have some 3/8 and 1/2 lathe stock now
[02:08:18] <cradek> the 1/4 is a little bit too flexy
[02:08:42] <jmkasunich> what did you get? brass, alum, steel?
[02:08:47] <cradek> brass and alum
[02:09:06] <cradek> CRS can be found in any hardware store
[02:09:13] <cradek> "any"
[02:09:19] <SWPadnos> I can bring a bit of 3/4" steel rod if you like
[02:09:35] <SWPadnos> it seems small in my bandsaw, but it may be bigger than the sherline
[02:09:44] <cradek> yeah that's getting pretty large
[02:09:47] <jmkasunich> I have some 2" I think
[02:10:05] <cradek> I have some 2" SS that I'm not going to bother to bring...
[02:10:16] <SWPadnos> it would be fun to do inside and outside threads in PVC conduit
[02:10:28] <SWPadnos> just screw the sections together ...
[02:11:08] <cradek> yeah that would be neat
[02:11:17] <jmkasunich> cradek probably doesn't have an inside threading tool that fits on (or is) a boring bar
[02:11:22] <cradek> I need to find a boring bar
[02:11:24] <jmkasunich> (I could be wrong about that)
[02:11:33] <jmkasunich> s/find/make
[02:11:35] <jmkasunich> maybe?
[02:11:35] <cradek> I have one that's too big
[02:11:41] <SWPadnos> if you'd like to do that, I can bring a few scraps of 3/4 conduit - in the 6" rto 2 ft range
[02:12:01] <jmkasunich> SWPadnos: how thick is the wall>
[02:12:02] <jmkasunich> ?
[02:12:04] <SWPadnos> hmmm. I have a boring bar set, but I don't think it's usable for threading
[02:12:14] <SWPadnos> 1/8 or thereabouts
[02:12:24] <cradek> I have a QCTP holder for a boring bar, but it's a pretty small hole
[02:12:29] <jmkasunich> I bet it won't be easy to get ID and OD threads in that, unless they are pretty fine
[02:12:31] <cradek> I'll make one to fit it one of these days
[02:12:43] <jmkasunich> how small is pretty small?
[02:13:05] <cradek> 3/8 maybe (guessing from memory)
[02:13:44] <cradek> I've made that kind of holder before, with a set screw in the end
[02:13:57] <jmkasunich> I've made small boring bars from busted or dull endmills with 3/8" shanks - just grind off all but one flute
[02:14:19] <cradek> that's clever
[02:14:24] <jmkasunich> if you start with a 1/8 endmill, you can bore in pretty small holes (limited depth of course)
[02:14:29] <cradek> or cheap drills
[02:14:40] <jmkasunich> drills aren't as good a grade of steel
[02:14:54] <jmkasunich> and the odds of having a dead 3/8" drill aren't that high
[02:15:01] <jmkasunich> a 27/32" drill ain't much good
[02:15:21] <cradek> no but I could buy new
[02:15:30] <jmkasunich> what?
[02:15:31] <cradek> can't buy end mills at the local store here
[02:15:43] <jmkasunich> what's this "buy" word?
[02:15:48] <jmkasunich> I said "dull or broken"
[02:16:09] <cradek> sure, but I doubt I have any end mills over 1/4
[02:16:18] <jmkasunich> I'll bring you some
[02:16:21] <cradek> :-)
[02:16:39] <cradek> 1/4 is ridiculously big on my mill
[02:16:58] <jmkasunich> * jmkasunich takes a picture of the 10lbs or so that he bought at an auction for $5 or some such
[02:19:18] <cradek> I'll go measure the hole...
[02:23:51] <cradek> yes 3/8
[02:24:47] <jmkasunich> http://jmkasunich.dyndns.org/pics/misc-tooling-1.jpg
[02:25:09] <jmkasunich> need some big ones?
[02:25:18] <cradek> not today, but maybe soon
[02:25:29] <jmkasunich> I think those are 1" shanks, too lazy to measure
[02:25:32] <jmkasunich> http://jmkasunich.dyndns.org/pics/misc-tooling-2.jpg
[02:25:34] <cradek> a few of those are new and worth $10
[02:25:45] <jmkasunich> I have several of those - 2 flute, natural choice for a boring bar
[02:26:10] <jmkasunich> not neccessarily new, sometimes they goop up a resharpened one
[02:26:12] <cradek> ah
[02:26:41] <jmkasunich> I'll bring you a couple of those ones in pic 2, plus some regular end mills
[02:27:11] <jmkasunich> (the #2 pic has a 3/8 shank, the skinny part is about 1-5/8 long
[02:27:12] <cradek> cool, thanks
[02:27:39] <cradek> that #2 looks great (what is it?)
[02:27:48] <jmkasunich> damfino
[02:28:42] <SWPadnos> it looks a little like a reamer
[02:28:50] <SWPadnos> but not very long
[02:29:04] <jmkasunich> whatever it is, I have at least 8-10 of them
[02:29:18] <jmkasunich> not enough flutes for a reamer, only 2
[02:29:59] <SWPadnos> hmmm. what's the approximate diameter of the goopy ones?
[02:30:10] <SWPadnos> those look like nice aluminum rougher/finnisher mills
[02:31:01] <jmkasunich> ~1"
[02:31:16] <SWPadnos> cool.
[02:31:23] <jmkasunich> 1 inch shanks, the cutting end might be less if they've been sharpened
[02:31:49] <SWPadnos> oh. it looks like the shank is smaller than the cutting part on some of them
[02:32:00] <jmkasunich> I have a 1" dia 4" long (flute length, 6-1/2 overall) ball end mill
[02:32:05] <SWPadnos> damn
[02:32:17] <SWPadnos> that would be expensive to buy new
[02:32:29] <jmkasunich> the corncob ones are 5-flute, so its not simple to measure the actual diameter
[02:32:37] <SWPadnos> heh
[02:32:54] <jmkasunich> you can see the ball mill trying to hide next to the divider in the drawer
[02:33:13] <jmkasunich> that short non-corrugated one is labeled 1-1/8
[02:33:15] <SWPadnos> ah yes, I see it now
[02:33:52] <jmkasunich> 1" shank is a bit much for a bport, R8 collets usually top out at 3/4
[02:34:15] <SWPadnos> yeah - I have toolholders for 1" and 1-1/4"
[02:34:32] <jmkasunich> you want those tools? I won't use them for anything
[02:34:53] <SWPadnos> sure, if you're pretty sure you won't need/want them
[02:35:08] <jmkasunich> the collets for the Van Norman top out at 5/8"
[02:35:26] <SWPadnos> bummer. no screw-type endmill holders for that?
[02:35:31] <jmkasunich> and 1" in the shoptask would be a joke
[02:35:43] <SWPadnos> yeah, the table would start to spin
[02:36:01] <jmkasunich> I usually use the VN with the big face mill, or sometimes with the horizontal arbor
[02:36:11] <jmkasunich> don't do a lot of vertical milling with it
[02:37:11] <SWPadnos> ok
[02:37:15] <SWPadnos> what do you want for the mills?
[02:38:02] <jmkasunich> no clue
[02:38:23] <SWPadnos> well, they look like <1/5 of the total in the drawer, so if that lot was $5, then $1 should cover it ;)
[02:38:31] <jmkasunich> ok
[02:39:31] <SWPadnos> man, look at this beast:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120126918833
[02:40:25] <jmkasunich> van norman tooling (top half)
[02:40:26] <jmkasunich> http://jmkasunich.dyndns.org/pics/misc-tooling-3.jpg
[02:40:57] <cradek> SWPadnos: yours for $100 I bet
[02:41:20] <SWPadnos> well, I can't really use those, so I'll let him keep that lot ;)
[02:41:30] <cradek> another spindle or two and you can make several widgets at a time
[02:41:31] <SWPadnos> damn. those are big hunks of steel
[02:41:43] <SWPadnos> oh, that $100 :)
[02:42:07] <SWPadnos> the true trace thing was really cool actually
[02:42:28] <jmkasunich> what are big hunks, the bport tru-trace?
[02:42:29] <cradek> I'd love to see one work - probably not many still going
[02:42:44] <SWPadnos> probably not
[02:43:18] <SWPadnos> the left hunk is a spindle, and the right hunk is the tracer, I guess
[02:43:26] <jmkasunich> yep
[02:43:30] <cradek> I saw a video of a larger system that did the same thing - milling molds for car sheet metal
[02:43:38] <SWPadnos> the one I saw before had two normal heads and the tracing head (which looked mostly like a normal head also)
[02:43:39] <cradek> (somewhere)
[02:44:11] <cradek> cool, two copies
[02:44:21] <SWPadnos> yep
[02:50:22] <jmkasunich> I should take more pictures of my crap piles, and see what else I can get you guys to take off my hands
[02:50:53] <cradek> it's like HGR but with free shipping?
[02:51:11] <jmkasunich> better - free purchase and free shipping
[02:51:17] <cradek> wow
[02:51:24] <jmkasunich> as long as its something I don't think I'll need, and fits in the truck
[02:51:51] <jmkasunich> http://jmkasunich.dyndns.org/pics/crapped-up-again.jpg
[02:52:22] <cradek> oh was it clean for a bit?
[02:52:32] <jmkasunich> took that last night, I was editing the ref card back drawing on the lappy balanced on the pile at left
[02:52:37] <jmkasunich> yeah, it was
[02:52:42] <cradek> haha
[02:52:45] <cradek> I know just how that goes
[02:52:47] <jmkasunich> around christmas, there are pics on my blog
[02:52:48] <SWPadnos> what is this you speak of? "clean"?
[02:52:57] <jmkasunich> clean-ish
[02:53:06] <cradek> SWPadnos: it means there are horizontal surfaces showing
[02:53:07] <SWPadnos> ?PARSE ERROR
[02:53:18] <SWPadnos> oh. I think I may have heard of that
[02:53:30] <jmkasunich> the bottom machine on that stack is a dual P3, the middle one is my new box, and the top one is my work lappy
[02:53:39] <SWPadnos> I actually found several square feet of carpet in my office
[02:54:45] <jmkasunich> cradek: I have some scraps of 1/2 to 1" diameter aluminum a few inches long - I'll bring some of those to the fest too
[02:54:55] <cradek> cool
[02:55:39] <jmkasunich> how big is the spindle hole in the sherline?
[02:56:48] <jtr> 10mm per google
[02:57:07] <jmkasunich> thanks
[02:57:09] <jmkasunich> too small...
[02:57:26] <cradek> the chuck's hole is 3/4, I think the spindle is 1/2
[02:57:44] <jmkasunich> I have some 1/2" x 5" bronze bolts, they make nice lathe stock once you machine the heads round
[02:57:52] <jmkasunich> but that would probably take all day on the sherline
[02:58:11] <cradek> oh maybe it does narrow
[02:58:12] <jmkasunich> and 5" is way to much stickout if they won't go inside the spindle
[02:58:18] <cradek> yeah it is less than .5
[02:58:38] <cradek> jmkasunich: it would make fast work of that if the tailstock reaches
[02:59:07] <cradek> but unfortunately the qctp makes the tool stick out to the left, which makes the tailstock have to reach more
[02:59:15] <jmkasunich> * jmkasunich has started the packing list
[02:59:28] <cradek> this isn't really for cutting large stuff.
[02:59:35] <jmkasunich> I know
[02:59:50] <cradek> I know you know - I'm reminding myself mostly
[03:00:01] <jmkasunich> bronze is a little tougher to cut than 360 brass too
[03:00:09] <jmkasunich> still a lot nicer than steel
[03:00:25] <cradek> steel is not a problem, with patience
[03:00:33] <cradek> I've threaded SS too
[03:00:44] <jmkasunich> you make steel wool?
[03:00:49] <cradek> yeah no kidding
[03:02:05] <cradek> I'm going to have to figure out how roughing passes should work
[03:02:12] <cradek> it's a pain to program that
[03:02:47] <jmkasunich> http://jmkasunich.dyndns.org/pics/blue_chips.JPG
[03:02:51] <jmkasunich> not steel wool
[03:03:24] <cradek> not SS either
[03:03:34] <jmkasunich> heh
[03:03:35] <cradek> nice chips though
[03:03:50] <cradek> the table fits under the chuck?
[03:03:56] <jmkasunich> yep
[03:04:00] <cradek> I have to put the post on the left, because it doesn't on the sherline
[03:04:00] <jmkasunich> by about 0.030
[03:04:20] <cradek> scary - the jaws can easily stick out
[03:04:22] <jmkasunich> oh, actually it fits under the ~8" dia faceplate by 0.030
[03:04:33] <jmkasunich> it fits under the 6" chuck by more ;-)
[03:04:39] <cradek> ah
[03:05:08] <jmkasunich> I think the faceplate is a tad under 8", because I'm turned it down to get the 0.030 clearance
[03:06:10] <jmkasunich> speaking of packing for the workshop
[03:06:17] <jmkasunich> who wants an HP LPR server?
[03:06:35] <jmkasunich> dual P3 600MHz, 768M ram, 2x18G scsi drives
[03:06:48] <cradek> damn
[03:06:48] <jmkasunich> I think I have breezy on it, but its been a while since I fired it up
[03:06:56] <cradek> that'd rock for my upcoming mill
[03:07:02] <jmkasunich> 3.5" tall, 19" wide, about 26" deep
[03:07:07] <cradek> pci slots of course?
[03:07:13] <jmkasunich> a couple
[03:07:16] <cradek> oh it's a rack thing?
[03:07:36] <cradek> is it mouseproof?
[03:08:12] <jmkasunich> I think so, unless they're little tiny meeses
[03:08:32] <cradek> do you know if it's ok for realtime?
[03:09:28] <jmkasunich> I think so, but its been too long to remember the details
[03:09:41] <jmkasunich> I sure didn't have access to a SMP RT kernel back then
[03:09:45] <cradek> I'll take it if you're sure you don't need it
[03:11:08] <jmkasunich> http://jmkasunich.dyndns.org/pics/lpr-server.jpg
[03:11:16] <jmkasunich> its yours, as long as you take both of them
[03:11:49] <jmkasunich> (the other one is for spares, the mobo had a problem, but it has power supply, disks, and lots of other bits and pieces that could be used to keep this one in service longer
[03:12:06] <jmkasunich> there are three PCI slots
[03:12:18] <jmkasunich> the video is onboard and truly crappy, but nothing a matrox won't fix
[03:12:19] <cradek> and a matrox millenium II!
[03:12:25] <cradek> I can see it from here
[03:12:32] <jmkasunich> heh. I guess I already fixed that
[03:12:34] <cradek> (I have lots of those too)
[03:12:41] <cradek> keep it if you need it
[03:12:52] <jmkasunich> don't want it
[03:13:03] <cradek> jepler will sure scowl but I'll take them
[03:13:21] <jmkasunich> I had great plans for it, but time passed those plans by, and now my tolerance for loud fans has dropped
[03:13:24] <cradek> I even have a pair of 800s that might work
[03:13:54] <jmkasunich> I'm gonna stick one of my kvm cables on there and see if it fires up, and what distro is on it
[03:15:23] <cradek> don't work too hard for free
[03:17:36] <jmkasunich> why would jepler scowl? you guys taking his car again?
[03:17:43] <cradek> yeah
[03:17:46] <cradek> and I'm sure it'll be full
[03:19:07] <jmkasunich> hmm, this is disturbing
[03:19:47] <jmkasunich> long pause at "uncompressing linux", eventually went on, then long pause at "checking if image is initramfs"
[03:21:44] <jmkasunich> I'm trying to remember what I did with this thing
[03:22:09] <jmkasunich> I think I was messing with raid and such silly stuff - thought I would use this as a server and compile farm (with VMs)
[03:22:18] <jmkasunich> this was back when I was gonna use qemu as the VM
[03:22:45] <jmkasunich> when I found out that 2x600xQEMU overhead was slower than the 200MHz real farm, I dropped the idea
[03:25:56] <jmkasunich> "buffer error on sdb"
[03:26:17] <jmkasunich> you have a few scsi disks laying around I think
[03:26:26] <cradek> yeah
[03:26:44] <jmkasunich> I'll bring it, we can throw a dapper cd into it, install, and try the RT smp kernel
[03:26:56] <jmkasunich> if it doesn't work, I'm sure we can find a dumpster at roland's place
[03:28:01] <jmkasunich> X is starting (I rebooted, the first try with 2.6.12.something.smp didn't seem happy, but a differnt kernel is booting now
[03:29:12] <jmkasunich> crap, don't remember username/pw
[03:35:13] <jmkasunich> "SCSI bus reset detected" thats bad, isn't it? :-(
[03:35:28] <cradek> yep
[03:35:36] <cradek> did you check the cables?
[03:35:44] <jmkasunich> I didn't think bitrot affected hardware
[03:35:46] <jmkasunich> not yet
[03:36:22] <jmkasunich> the seem secure
[03:39:52] <jmkasunich> booted into recovery mode, found out what my user name was and remembered the pw
[03:40:03] <jmkasunich> X starts, but /home is empty
[03:40:25] <jmkasunich> I think I was doing custom partitioning and raid foolishness for /home
[03:40:41] <jmkasunich> it wants a fresh install is what it wants
[03:41:19] <jmkasunich> if we can't get it working, we'll put it between two sawhorses and use it as a table
[03:41:29] <jmkasunich> Moving on....
[03:42:10] <jmkasunich> what else can I pawn off on^H^H^H^ give to my unsuspecting^H^H^H^H^H friends
[03:42:39] <cradek> haha
[03:43:30] <jmkasunich> I bet the disk problems are raid related
[03:43:52] <cradek> I don't think software raid would cause a scsi bus reset
[03:43:59] <cradek> may be two problems
[03:44:19] <cradek> but part swapping will surely fix it
[03:44:34] <jmkasunich> during shutdown, immediately after "shutting down LVM groups" and before "stopping all md devices" I got another burst of SCSI errors
[03:45:19] <jmkasunich> "power down" ;-)
[03:48:00] <cradek> that actually works on my new kernel - no choice, as some acpi is needed for powering up the processors
[03:48:22] <jmkasunich> I'd like to see how that kernel works on the LPr
[03:48:29] <jmkasunich> it worked on my Kayak
[03:48:39] <jmkasunich> which I'm also planning to bring
[03:49:00] <jmkasunich> damn, I'm going to have too many computers
[03:49:25] <jmkasunich> this one, the new one (maybe I can finally move over the compile farm VMs), the Kayak, and the LPr
[03:58:59] <jmkasunich> SWPadnos: are you still around?
[04:00:50] <jmkasunich> cradek: did you ever solve your servo power supply softness problem?
[04:06:55] <cradek> it was more acceptable after I jumpered the transformer for 100v, but it's still not great
[04:07:19] <cradek> it'll cut stuff if I'm careful though
[04:08:30] <jmkasunich> how many V are you aiming for? 24?
[04:09:03] <cradek> the driver is so lossy, probably more like 28
[04:09:13] <cradek> this one is 30 (unloaded)
[04:09:45] <jmkasunich> http://jmkasunich.dyndns.org/pics/ps24v.jpg
[04:09:51] <jmkasunich> got 3 of those, I can bring one
[04:10:00] <jmkasunich> 24V at 7.2A
[04:10:12] <jmkasunich> assuming you keep the regulator part
[04:10:36] <jmkasunich> there is a V.adj pot, bet you could turn it up to 28
[04:10:44] <jmkasunich> won't fit in the box tho :-(
[04:10:59] <cradek> I have something like that too, even higher current I think, that's what I was using before
[04:11:27] <jmkasunich> oh, I thought you were using a bench supply
[04:11:58] <cradek> no, some crazy open frame thing with a dozen voltages
[04:12:50] <jmkasunich> some crazy thing that you intend to dedicate to the lathe? or could you make good use of one of these?
[04:13:11] <cradek> it would be nice to at least try it at fest
[04:13:24] <jmkasunich> it?
[04:13:27] <cradek> yours
[04:13:30] <jmkasunich> ok
[04:13:37] <jmkasunich> adds to list
[04:13:39] <cradek> :-)
[04:14:05] <jmkasunich> I might, just barely, be putting a visible dent in the piles
[04:14:08] <jmkasunich> if you look very very carefully
[04:14:26] <cradek> goodnight... (3 more days!)
[04:14:40] <jmkasunich> I should go to bed at a sane hour too
[04:14:52] <jmkasunich> need to fix the sleep debt before I spend a whole day driving
[04:14:53] <jmkasunich> goodnight
[12:16:48] <Guest843> Guest843 is now known as skunkworks_
[13:20:35] <skunkworks_> anyways... alex_joni: married life treating you ok? ;)
[13:20:57] <alex_joni> skunkworks_: yeah, been away from home most of the last 2 weeks
[13:21:06] <alex_joni> w/o the wife ;)
[13:21:42] <skunkworks_> did you two have a honeymoon? or going to?
[13:21:53] <alex_joni> not yet, maybe sometime
[13:37:32] <alex_joni> skunkworks_: most probably honeyweek
[13:39:57] <skunkworks_> Nice
[13:40:32] <skunkworks_> any ideas of location yet?
[14:05:38] <jepler_> jepler_ is now known as jepler
[17:14:30] <alex_joni> skunkworks_: not really
