#emc-devel | Logs for 2007-03-29

[06:47:36] <SWPadnos_> SWPadnos_ is now known as SWPadnos
[10:14:24] <rayh> HAL:73: ERROR: pin 'iocontrol.0.user-enable-out' not found
[10:14:24] <rayh> HAL config file /home/rayh/emc/emc2-head/configs/sim/core_sim.hal failed.
[10:14:24] <rayh> Shutting down and cleaning up EMC2...
[18:59:40] <rayh> Was there some work done on a pure simulation version?
[19:01:31] <jepler> emc 2.1 can run as a purely userspace program on an unpatched linux system, but can't control any hardware. Is that what you mean when you say "pure simulation"?
[19:01:49] <jepler> (no kernel modules required either)
[19:02:28] <rayh> Yea. Now for the question. How about a compile for an ms os?
[19:02:49] <rayh> What issues would we run up against?
[19:03:01] <jepler> I don't know. I don't do Microsoft development.
[19:03:17] <rayh> I know the feeling.
[19:03:53] <rayh> This non-realtime system uses c, c++ and interface scripting?
[19:04:08] <jepler> the --enable-simulator mode assumes lots of unix things like dlopen(), sysv shared memory, X windows, etc.
[19:04:45] <alex_joni> jepler: I bet it could be compiled under cygwin
[19:04:47] <rayh> Okay.
[19:05:20] <alex_joni> rayh: just not more than 1-2$ (my bet..)
[19:05:21] <jepler> yes, you'd also need a unix-like build environment with GNU make and all that stuff
[19:05:39] <alex_joni> jepler: cygwin has all that
[19:05:58] <rayh> Would a cygwin system require the end user to have cygwin installed?
[19:06:05] <alex_joni> jepler: the guy working with the puma-typed robot thanks for the teach-in script
[19:06:15] <alex_joni> rayh: not necessarely, but some libs are needed
[19:06:25] <rayh> Okay.
[19:06:27] <alex_joni> jepler: he says it works OK
[19:06:34] <jepler> you'd need a fair fraction of cygwin -- you'd need "bash" to run scripts/emc, for instance.
[19:06:43] <alex_joni> he likes the possibility to save joints while jogging in world view :D
[19:06:56] <jepler> alex_joni: I'm glad you were able to get it running for him
[19:07:17] <alex_joni> and I LOVE the fact that my emc2 is able to save position on shutdown
[19:07:18] <rayh> Thanks guys. I believe I've got my answer.
[19:07:25] <alex_joni> rayh: good ;)
[19:07:52] <alex_joni> jepler: thanks for doing the POSITION_FILE thing
[19:08:01] <alex_joni> I've been running a program for the past 3 days
[19:08:23] <alex_joni> (too small mill for the job, but slowly it gets it done ;)
[19:08:32] <jepler> alex_joni: wow that's a long-running job
[19:11:17] <jepler> alex_joni: so you are shutting down the mill from time to time but keeping your position?
[19:11:59] <alex_joni> yeah, in the evening when going home
[19:12:24] <alex_joni> starting up the next day, select the line where it was yesterday, hit the set run line, and resume
[19:13:11] <jepler> why not just pause it?
[19:13:31] <alex_joni> I like to turn off the machine when leaving the place
[19:13:39] <alex_joni> the PC I mean
[19:23:56] <alex_joni> "As an active participant in the Open Source community, you may be excited
[19:23:56] <alex_joni> to learn about a new feature that we will add to SourceForge.net in late
[19:23:56] <alex_joni> spring/early summer. This feature will allow you to buy or sell services
[19:23:56] <alex_joni> for Open Source software on SourceForge.net.
[19:23:58] <alex_joni> "
[19:25:07] <skunkworks> that just seems wrong
[20:26:32] <alex_joni> hmm.. I wonder what the problem Rick Jenkins is seeing is..
[20:27:18] <alex_joni> I only see little parts of RTAPI using proc_fs, and those seem quoted accordingly
[20:33:59] <jepler> I haven't seen his message yet, but one wasn't in 2.1
[20:34:06] <jepler> this is noted on the wiki somewhere obscure
[23:04:45] <jepler> someone who knows tkemc better than me, please look at https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1690950&group_id=6744&atid=106744
[23:13:13] <cradek> I noticed that didn't work, but I didn't trust my memory that it was even supposed to have keyboard shortcuts
[23:45:23] <jmkasunich> hi guys
[23:45:31] <cradek> hi
[23:45:36] <jepler> hi jmk
[23:45:42] <jmkasunich> I noticed that alex got the sourceforge spam too...
[23:45:49] <jepler> I think I've gotten two copies of it
[23:45:50] <jmkasunich> I got it twice
[23:45:58] <cradek> me too
[23:46:01] <jepler> some days I hate them (sf)
[23:46:07] <jmkasunich> yeah
[23:46:11] <cradek> (I didn't even read it)
[23:46:48] <jmkasunich> so which one if Roland's machine are you gonna take home?
[23:47:07] <cradek> the G&L of course
[23:47:27] <jmkasunich> ahhh darn, I wanted that one
[23:47:51] <jmkasunich> I wonder which one he is talking about?
[23:48:05] <cradek> I don't know but it must be big
[23:48:16] <jmkasunich> we've seen them both
[23:48:18] <jmkasunich> they are big
[23:48:40] <jmkasunich> much too tall for my garage
[23:48:54] <cradek> yeah
[23:49:27] <jmkasunich> the one in the middle of the room has had some work done on it
[23:49:33] <jmkasunich> I dunno if thats good or bad
[23:49:44] <jmkasunich> the other one just has crap piled all over it
[23:51:28] <jmkasunich> http://neme-s.org/CNC_Workshop/CNC_Workshop_11.htm
[23:51:33] <jmkasunich> thats one of them behind ray
[23:51:54] <jmkasunich> note the size of the spindle motor (up on top, about 12' in the air)
[23:55:58] <cradek> that's a neat machine and worth the price I bet
[23:56:15] <jmkasunich> "worth the price" ;-)
[23:56:25] <jmkasunich> the price is the transportation....
[23:56:31] <cradek> sure
[23:56:35] <jmkasunich> and the floor space, and the three phase power
[23:57:07] <cradek> yeah the power is the killer
[23:57:37] <jmkasunich> to properly use a machine like that, you gotta be taking multi-horsepower cuts
[23:57:56] <jmkasunich> phase converters aren't gonna hack it
[23:58:13] <jmkasunich> well, maybe a really big one
[23:58:35] <jmkasunich> I got to see a vertical machining center running yesterday
[23:58:48] <jmkasunich> there is quite a long (and sad) story behind it
[23:59:01] <jmkasunich> we have a tech at work - nice guy
[23:59:57] <jmkasunich> he does electronics on the side. and his dad does CNC maintainence, repair, etc