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[01:19:09] <SWPadnos> hi petev, haw are things?
[01:19:12] <SWPadnos> how
[02:16:14] <cradek> jepler: i2g backport works
[02:33:01] <jepler> cradek: and the reload fix?
[02:33:11] <cradek> yes
[02:33:19] <jepler> yay
[02:33:28] <jepler> I don't know that I can test any of the jogging/jog wheel changes
[02:35:12] <cradek> I don't have a joystick, but I do have the jogwheel
[02:41:44] <jmkasunich> you want to test the "stuart mod" to jogwheels?
[02:41:52] <jmkasunich> or do you find it repulsive ;-)
[02:42:14] <jepler> I can only find my digital joypad, not an analog one
[02:42:55] <jepler> hm there's no easy way to make 'dot' do some sort of smart partitioning of a graph over multiple pages
[02:43:46] <jepler> it can do multi-page postscript output, but it's to paste together as a grid of pages, with the page edges falling at no particular place
[02:44:19] <SWPadnos> is graphviz any smarter? (or usable)
[02:44:30] <jepler> dot is part of graphviz
[02:44:56] <jepler> maybe there's another program that is more appropriate, I wouldn't know
[02:45:02] <SWPadnos> oh, ok
[02:46:13] <cradek> jmkasunich: I'd probably have trouble determining whether it's the broken behavior he wants or some other broken behavior
[02:46:18] <jmkasunich> heh
[02:46:18] <cradek> (semi-troll)
[02:46:33] <jmkasunich> thats OK, I haven't started coding it yet
[02:46:47] <cradek> I don't think it belongs in 2.1
[02:46:51] <jmkasunich> agreed
[02:47:06] <jmkasunich> I'm now debating between the distance and time based implementations
[02:47:35] <jmkasunich> there actually is a "natural" distance for the distance based version - the distance the axis requires to come to a complete stop from top speed
[02:48:12] <cradek> you know when he said he has a wheel with no marks, I started to understand why he wants this behavior
[02:48:19] <jmkasunich> yeah
[02:48:25] <jmkasunich> position sync means nothing to him
[02:48:28] <jmkasunich> its a mouse
[02:48:38] <cradek> a joystick
[02:48:41] <SWPadnos> also consider that you don't have perfect synchronization when you can switch the wheel from axis to axis
[02:48:43] <jmkasunich> no, a mouse
[02:48:49] <cradek> maybe what he wants is really a joystick...
[02:49:00] <cradek> yeah, a mouse is right
[02:49:10] <jmkasunich> with a mouse, position in controls position out, but with no positive engagement between the two
[02:49:21] <jmkasunich> and the feedback is eyes on the cursor (I mean machine table)
[02:49:35] <cradek> the scrollywheel finally got me to give up my absolute-positioning tablets for mice
[02:50:14] <cradek> even the relativeness of mice kind of turns me off
[02:50:15] <jmkasunich> heh, the scrollywheel is one reason why the ball in this keyboard won't get used much
[02:53:06] <cradek> http://timeguy.com/cradek-files/emc/emc2-sim_2.1.4_i386.deb
[02:53:21] <cradek> anyone want to try it?
[02:54:21] <jmkasunich> wow, not even waiting until the weekend
[02:55:03] <cradek> I only built sim so far. maybe we should test this one a bit more, I kind of failed to get the last couple as good as possible
[02:55:23] <jepler> should probably have put a ~alpha on there, or something
[02:55:46] <cradek> yeah, but I figured you guys could handle it
[02:56:01] <cradek> bad idea probably
[02:57:11] <jepler> I wonder why the deb has grown 200k or so since 2.1.0
[02:57:21] <jepler> (looking at the directory listing here:
http://linuxcnc.org/emc2/dists/dapper/emc2.1-sim/binary-i386/)
[02:59:13] <cradek> with care, dpkg -c would tell you
[02:59:29] <cradek> docs?
[02:59:34] <jepler> that's my guess
[03:02:10] <cradek> i18n
[03:02:19] <cradek> and a few manpages
[03:02:39] <jepler> i2g works, hal_input works
[05:31:49] <tfmacz> LawrenceG: You There???
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