#emc-devel | Logs for 2007-01-09

[14:01:53] <SWPadnos> damn! that figures.
[14:02:05] <alex_joni> what?
[14:02:06] <SWPadnos> if Aram Kasparov's post is true, I'm a little bummed
[14:02:18] <alex_joni> about the new mesa card?
[14:02:20] <SWPadnos> a new version of the 5i20 ...
[14:02:23] <SWPadnos> yeah
[14:02:33] <alex_joni> I think they would have at least mentioned it
[14:02:36] <SWPadnos> at least they were pretty cheap
[14:02:42] <alex_joni> when you ordered 10+cards
[14:02:56] <SWPadnos> yeah, though it was the 25+ price :)
[14:03:02] <alex_joni> 15 actually
[14:03:10] <alex_joni> shouldn't matter
[14:03:15] <SWPadnos> 15, 5, 9, 8, and 16 to be precise :)
[14:03:36] <alex_joni> somehow I wonder..
[14:03:52] <skunkworks> I am just glad I have the board the developers have ;)
[14:04:07] <SWPadnos> heh. did yours arrive?
[14:04:50] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: I just googled for mesa m5i20
[14:04:57] <alex_joni> the first 20 hits are emc related :D
[14:05:09] <SWPadnos> that may change if you leave off the "m"
[14:05:14] <SWPadnos> they call it the 5i20
[14:05:38] <alex_joni> you can sell one here: http://wantitnow.ebay.com/mesa-electronics-M5i20_W0QQadidZ190057526911
[14:05:53] <SWPadnos> well, I do have three of them ... :)
[14:06:03] <skunkworks> SWPadnos: should be here today.
[14:06:03] <alex_joni> 5i20 brings the first 2 hits from mesanet, the rest are emc :D
[14:06:09] <SWPadnos> heh
[14:08:15] <skunkworks> On FedEx vehicle for delivery
[14:09:17] <SWPadnos> cool. you're the lucky one - it's going to a business (where someone can sign for it;) )
[14:10:05] <SWPadnos> huh - these people sell Mesa products: http://www.lvp.nl/
[14:23:33] <skunkworks> any specs on the new version?
[14:27:10] <SWPadnos> none
[14:27:12] <SWPadnos> anywhere
[14:28:13] <skunkworks> I wonder how aram knew a new version was coming out?
[14:29:23] <alex_joni> and if he did, how come he knew so little
[14:29:36] <skunkworks> exactly
[14:30:00] <SWPadnos> there is another version (sort of) - the one with 12 or 24 RS422 channels on it
[14:30:17] <SWPadnos> they may be making a newer version of that with a zillion ethernets instead
[14:30:26] <SWPadnos> that would be interesting :)
[14:33:16] <jepler> I can't quite imagine what you'd use a zillion ethernets for
[14:33:35] <SWPadnos> talking to lots of ethernet things
[14:34:37] <jepler> I guess you want lots of point-to-point links if you're doing realtime?
[14:35:06] <SWPadnos> yeah - one per axis
[14:35:12] <SWPadnos> or one per camera, in my case :)
[14:39:09] <alex_joni> those are UDP for realtime
[14:39:16] <alex_joni> so it's better to have them p2p
[16:43:47] <SWPadnos> hi Ray
[16:48:27] <rayh> Hi Steven.
[16:49:03] <SWPadnos> is it damned cold there yet?
[16:51:11] <rayh> It is just starting that way.
[16:51:24] <SWPadnos> oh good. we may get winter before summer then :)
[16:51:24] <rayh> Looks like zero in the next couple days.
[16:51:44] <rayh> It has been a mild one so far.
[16:51:57] <rayh> You get rain the last few days?
[16:52:06] <SWPadnos> a little
[16:55:04] <rayh> nice sunny day here yesterday, lake effect today.
[16:56:11] <SWPadnos> hmmm. overcast yet still above freezing here
[16:56:41] <rayh> Looks like the wind pattern should cool you in the next couple days.
[16:58:15] <SWPadnos> ok. that's good (in a way ;) )
[16:59:29] <SWPadnos> out of curiosity, which mini-ITX board did you get the not-bad-for-RT results with?
[17:01:12] <SWPadnos> well, it looks like FedEx ground/home delivery doesn't care about "signature required" :)
[17:01:42] <rayh> The user's manual says VIA CN700 chipset
[17:02:12] <SWPadnos> ok - nothing special though, just a relatively inexpensive Eden or Epia board?
[17:02:17] <cradek> SWPadnos: woo! (I left a nice note on the door)
[17:02:25] <SWPadnos> ah - cool
[17:02:37] <cradek> I figured it couldn't hurt
[17:03:05] <jepler> ooh ooh
[17:03:21] <SWPadnos> * SWPadnos senses that someone will take a long lunch break today ;)
[17:03:49] <cradek> nah... too far to drive
[17:03:48] <jepler> I'll probably just cross my fingers and hope cradek remembers to bring it to the office tomorrow
[17:03:55] <SWPadnos> heh
[17:04:10] <cradek> unless jepler wants to go get them, I guess...
[17:04:38] <cradek> I won't be home until too late tonight anyway
[17:04:50] <rayh> invoice says J7F2-10000 VIA CN700 (W 1.0GB C& MINI ITX
[17:05:03] <SWPadnos> ok. thanks
[17:05:37] <SWPadnos> jetway Via Eden board, 1 GHz processor ... ?
[17:05:49] <rayh> My worry was the onboard display stuff.
[17:05:55] <SWPadnos> right
[17:06:30] <SWPadnos> my kiosk PC has an onboard LCD controller, but it has 4M on-chip, so it acts like a PCI or AGP card (not shared memory)
[17:06:41] <SWPadnos> what color depth are you running?
[17:08:51] <rayh> 24 as default
[17:09:05] <SWPadnos> hmmm - cool
[17:09:06] <rayh> framebuffer of some sort
[17:09:11] <rayh> and vesa driver
[17:09:54] <steves_logging1> steves_logging1 is now known as steve_stallings
[17:10:03] <jepler> hi steve_stallings
[17:10:25] <SWPadnos> it would be cool if the Epia boards in general have good RT performance
[17:10:31] <jepler> yes it would
[17:11:24] <rayh> Roltek has had a bitch of a time with an older 800.
[17:11:42] <rayh> wasn't able to load ubuntu-emc
[17:11:57] <rayh> seems like it was a bad memory card.
[17:12:06] <rayh> bdi loaded fine.
[17:12:07] <SWPadnos> yeah. it may be that the newer chipsets are better (I don't think the S3 Unichrome controller was used until recently)
[17:12:14] <SWPadnos> hmmm
[17:13:18] <jepler> I have S3 unichrome in one of my amd64 boxes, but it didn't work even with the "vesa" driver (fedora, xorg 6.8)
[17:13:37] <jepler> once it's out of service maybe I'll try it with the emc2 live cd
[17:14:26] <SWPadnos> is that an onboard chip?
[17:14:40] <SWPadnos> I don't remember if they ever mace plug-in cards
[17:14:42] <SWPadnos> made
[17:15:13] <jepler> yes that's the onboard video
[17:15:37] <SWPadnos> interesting
[17:15:46] <jepler> I put in a g400 to make it work
[17:20:29] <SWPadnos> I guess 6.9 was when unichrome started actually working
[17:22:04] <cradek> rayh: did roltek try the vesa driver (the alternate vga mode on the initial menu)?
[17:22:11] <cradek> I forget what it's called exactly
[17:22:20] <jepler> "safe video mode"?
[17:22:25] <cradek> yeah that
[17:43:29] <steve_stallings> steve_stallings is now known as steves_logging1