#emc-devel | Logs for 2006-09-15

[00:04:09] <jmkasunich> several
[00:05:18] <jmkasunich> how do the new flags get conveyed to the RT code?
[00:05:37] <jmkasunich> (looking at the commit message, and I don't see it
[00:05:50] <jmkasunich> maybe I'm just not looking close enough
[00:07:58] <jepler> see the change to command.c
[00:08:05] <jmkasunich> yeah, just found that
[00:08:13] <jepler> they come in the existing emcmotCommand structure
[00:08:28] <jmkasunich> yep, same old command, just a new field
[00:09:01] <jepler> and the axis number -1 is used to request sequential homing
[00:09:05] <jmkasunich> right
[00:12:17] <jepler> that stuff works
[00:12:29] <jepler> it's the "shared switch" stuff that needs work
[00:13:33] <jepler> or needs to be tested, at any rate
[00:13:54] <jepler> and this intermittent homing error at startup that only I seem to have gotten -- alex tried to reproduce it for me but didn't
[00:17:11] <jmkasunich> is the intermittent error something from user space?
[00:17:18] <jmkasunich> or the state machine in RT?
[00:21:14] <jmkasunich> I can try to reproduce - what config were you running?
[00:38:07] <jepler> I was running configs/sim/axis.ini and at the very beginning of startup I was getting the error I pasted earlier
[00:39:06] <jepler> and even for me it was intermittent .. seemed to happen more if I waited a few minutes and had a cold cache but maybe that was my imagination
[00:39:40] <jepler> * jepler wanders off again
[00:50:46] <jmkasunich> * jmkasunich wanders out to the garage to make chips
[13:39:55] <jepler> SWPadnos: about automatically updating the emc2 documentation online... I envision rebuilding the docs from a cron job on one of my machines, and putting it on the linuxcnc.org website with ssh+rsync or something like that.
[13:40:41] <SWPadnos> it may be possible to just have a cron job on DH that does the build (similar to the compile farm method)
[13:41:10] <jepler> sure, if all the required software is available
[13:41:31] <jepler> there's also something a bit gross about getting emc2 to configure and build just the documentation on a system without realtime
[13:41:50] <SWPadnos> err - right - your way is better
[18:19:50] <alex_joni> hi guys
[18:21:29] <jepler> hi alex
[18:21:54] <alex_joni> glad you liked my intro :)
[18:22:30] <jepler> I changed a few more things
[18:22:39] <alex_joni> seen the commit
[18:22:41] <jepler> but you made it all real clear
[18:22:54] <alex_joni> didn't read it yet, but I'm sure it's fine
[18:23:35] <jepler> the new version should be on linuxcnc.org/docs
[18:25:00] <alex_joni> did you do something about the math formulas?
[18:25:10] <alex_joni> on my system they looked way crappier
[18:25:36] <jepler> in lyx, I changed them to 'displaymath' when they were in a paragraph of their own
[18:25:44] <jepler> that mostly centers them but I think it makes the font a little bigger too
[18:25:51] <alex_joni> jepler: wanna hear something funny?
[18:25:58] <jepler> I don't know what's with the black bar at the bottom of some of them though -- in the html
[18:26:01] <jepler> sure?
[18:26:07] <alex_joni> just wanted to say I really like the first paragraph
[18:26:11] <alex_joni> :)
[18:26:19] <alex_joni> thought you wrote that...
[18:26:40] <jepler> this ? No, I don't think that was me. "When we talk about CNC machines, we usually think about machines that are commanded to move to certain locations and perform various tasks. "
[18:26:56] <alex_joni> it seems it's just my memory which is crappy ;)
[18:28:32] <SWPadnos> hi alex. it looks like the wiki DNS changes have propagated
[18:28:50] <SWPadnos> there's a link to the SF logo on the page though - where can I get rid of it?
[18:28:57] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: thanks
[18:29:02] <SWPadnos> (err - in the template footer)
[18:29:18] <alex_joni> don't see it
[18:29:29] <SWPadnos> no problem - I think it'll work better (until DH has issues ;) )
[18:29:31] <alex_joni> but I need to change the config of the wiki
[18:29:52] <SWPadnos> I saw that the base name (or whatever it is) points to www.linuxcnc.org/wiki/
[18:29:59] <alex_joni> yeah, that
[18:30:05] <alex_joni> about 4-5 places
[18:30:14] <SWPadnos> ok. I can fix those
[18:30:32] <SWPadnos> aha - the image is gone now. it may have been a caching issue on my PC
[18:31:09] <alex_joni> yeah, I think cradek remove it a while sooner
[18:31:14] <alex_joni> let me try to change it now ;)
[18:31:20] <alex_joni> found a good spot for my wireless
[18:31:24] <SWPadnos> ok. it was there around 10 minutes ago, but not now
[18:31:25] <alex_joni> can type with 2 hands now :D
[18:31:29] <SWPadnos> heh - cool
[18:31:43] <SWPadnos> no standing on your head and counting backwards needed? ;)
[18:31:47] <alex_joni> it seems the human body is quite a good antenna
[18:31:52] <SWPadnos> indeed
[18:32:03] <alex_joni> at least on 450MHz
[18:32:07] <SWPadnos> for microwave, I'm surprised. probably a better ground plane
[18:32:17] <SWPadnos> wifi should be 2.45 GHz
[18:32:24] <alex_joni> this is some kind of cell
[18:32:31] <alex_joni> 2.4 Mbit though ;)
[18:32:31] <SWPadnos> ah. GSM?
[18:32:37] <alex_joni> no, CDMA
[18:32:37] <SWPadnos> kewl
[18:32:40] <SWPadnos> ok
[18:32:50] <alex_joni> you probably never heard of it :D
[18:32:57] <alex_joni> it's quite 'unspread'
[18:33:04] <SWPadnos> Code Division Multiple Access - nope. never heard of it ;)
[18:34:02] <SWPadnos> the only cell systems I know of are AMPS, NAMPS, CDMA, TDMA, and GSM, some of which are used on multiple bands depending on the region
[18:35:11] <alex_joni> this is CDMA ;)
[18:35:48] <SWPadnos> I think the upload path can be wiki.linuxcnc.org/uploads - did you try it without the cncman dir spec in there?
[18:35:53] <alex_joni> dinero seems slow right now
[18:36:11] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: I think the cgi-bin needs the full path
[18:36:12] <SWPadnos> I'm editing the config right now, so you don't need to
[18:36:21] <alex_joni> I'm almost done
[18:36:23] <SWPadnos> ah - right. it's not a web address
[18:36:31] <SWPadnos> ok. I'll exit without saving :)
[18:36:40] <alex_joni> better ;)
[18:37:41] <alex_joni> I think it's done
[18:37:50] <alex_joni> can you check too if it works properly?
[18:37:58] <SWPadnos> yep. one sec
[18:38:43] <alex_joni> it looks about right to me
[18:38:51] <SWPadnos> it looks right to me as well
[18:39:02] <alex_joni> phew
[18:39:07] <alex_joni> ;-)
[18:39:13] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: thanks again for the help
[18:39:20] <alex_joni> and the kind hosting
[18:39:31] <SWPadnos> no problem - happy to help
[18:39:41] <SWPadnos> if only there were an easy way to move the mailing lists ;)
[18:42:13] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: actually there is.. the problem is moving the archive ;)
[18:43:03] <SWPadnos> I thought the main concern was that the list members might need to do something (like change spam filters and the like) - it's not transparent to the users
[18:43:48] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: it's probably quite a PITA.. so let's leave it for a while (mailing lists have been acceptable lately ;)
[18:44:05] <SWPadnos> I'm happy with that :)
[18:44:47] <alex_joni> hmm.. getting about 2kB/sec now :D
[18:45:30] <alex_joni> but I'm happy it works at all
[18:46:24] <SWPadnos> yeah - it was that way for me in Poland
[18:46:46] <alex_joni> how was poland anyways?
[18:46:55] <SWPadnos> the apartment we had in Krakow had wired ethernet, possibly DSL or something, but at least it worked :)
[18:47:06] <SWPadnos> it was great. The Poles reall yknow how to party
[18:47:13] <SWPadnos> and on the whole, are very attractive ;)
[18:47:49] <alex_joni> * alex_joni was in germany this week
[18:48:02] <SWPadnos> cool. I'll be there in a couple of weeks
[18:48:09] <alex_joni> same here ;)
[18:48:12] <alex_joni> where to?
[18:48:19] <SWPadnos> Cologne / Dusseldorf
[18:48:46] <alex_joni> I'll be in Siegen (about 2h drive from düsseldorf)
[18:49:10] <SWPadnos> nice. What dates? I'll have a rail pass, so I could actually meet up with you for a bit
[18:49:46] <alex_joni> not sure yet, but probably around 2 weeks from now
[18:50:08] <alex_joni> if you go to cologne there are 2 things which you must do ;)
[18:50:13] <SWPadnos> ok. I'll be ther efrom the 28th of this month through Oct. 2
[18:50:26] <SWPadnos> I actually could take Oct 1 (a Sunday) off
[18:50:35] <alex_joni> 1. climb on the dome (south? tower I think)
[18:50:44] <alex_joni> 2. drink some kölsch
[18:50:46] <SWPadnos> heh
[18:51:04] <SWPadnos> I don't like beer, btu I can substitute eating nice herring and Sauerbraten instead
[18:51:14] <alex_joni> kölsch is a local beer, only brewed in breweries which can see the dome directly
[18:51:33] <SWPadnos> I finally went into the Dom last time I was there (2 years ago) - maybe it's time for me to do the climb
[18:51:41] <alex_joni> and of course you need to eat 'met'
[18:51:49] <alex_joni> metbrötchen
[18:51:49] <SWPadnos> ?
[18:51:55] <SWPadnos> meat bread?
[18:52:06] <SWPadnos> kind of like a hot pocket?
[18:52:07] <alex_joni> yeah, something like that
[18:52:14] <alex_joni> no, it's kinda raw :D
[18:52:20] <alex_joni> but _very_ yummy
[18:52:26] <SWPadnos> oh, yum
[18:52:31] <cradek> I'd just like to say that meat can't be "kinda" raw
[18:52:38] <SWPadnos> I had a few kinds of tartare in Poland - very nice
[18:53:03] <SWPadnos> how about just "raw"
[18:53:37] <alex_joni> well.. it has some spices in it
[18:54:21] <SWPadnos> right - things like onion and julienne pickle (or it seemed that way to me)
[18:54:31] <SWPadnos> they also put a raw egg in the middle of the meat
[18:54:46] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: oops.. it's supposed to be mettbrötchen ;)
[18:54:47] <alex_joni> sorry
[18:54:51] <SWPadnos> thatwas a little odd, but ok
[18:55:05] <SWPadnos> oh - now it makes sense ;)
[18:55:31] <alex_joni> just google it
[18:55:43] <SWPadnos> at the wedding reception, they hada salmon and asparagus dish that tasted just like oysters - it was great
[18:57:00] <SWPadnos> hmmm - I
[18:57:09] <alex_joni> http://www.kochen-fuer-doofe.de/images/0/0c/Dsc09539.jpg
[18:57:13] <SWPadnos> hmmm - I'd be a little concerned about raw pork
[18:57:39] <SWPadnos> yummy looking. onion and garlic
[18:57:52] <alex_joni> think raw chicken is better? :D
[18:58:00] <SWPadnos> err - no! :)
[18:58:08] <SWPadnos> just beef and fish
[18:59:10] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: nowadays each of those animals has some diseases
[18:59:25] <alex_joni> like mad cow, avian flu, trichinelosis, etc
[18:59:39] <jepler> don't forget tofu wasting disease
[18:59:45] <SWPadnos> and certain parasites in fish
[18:59:51] <SWPadnos> it's a sad thing to waste tofu
[19:05:14] <cradek> my cats would really love that mettbrötchen, but I bet they'd eat around the onions
[19:12:21] <SWPadnos> and garlic, I suspect
[19:13:00] <alex_joni> * alex_joni has an urge for pickled garlic
[19:13:14] <SWPadnos> argh. now I do, too
[19:13:29] <SWPadnos> well, I wanted to buy cream anyway (and maybe some chocolate covered donuts)
[19:13:56] <cradek> I bought some 'mexican red' garlic at the farmers market and made pesto with it
[19:14:12] <cradek> I think it's the spiciest garlic I've ever eaten, it knocks your socks off
[19:14:19] <jepler> mmm
[19:14:26] <SWPadnos> interesting. I'll have to see if it's available here
[19:20:00] <cradek> http://www.territorial-seed.com/stores/1/Spanish_Roja_-_Organic_P3054C244.cfm
[19:20:06] <cradek> ok I didn't have the name quite right
[19:21:46] <SWPadnos> funny - not available for Idaho or Canada ???
[19:22:42] <cradek> you see funny state limitations all the time on online seed stores, there must be a lot of laws about that
[19:22:49] <SWPadnos> I'm sure
[19:23:13] <SWPadnos> we weren't allowed to take an orange into the boarding lounge for a flight between Hawai'i and the mainland
[19:24:22] <cradek> I read recently that the flight restrictions in late 2001 delayed the flu season by 2 weeks
[19:24:49] <SWPadnos> interesting
[19:25:11] <SWPadnos> you mean the lack of flights (or passengers, once they started flying again)?
[19:25:39] <cradek> I think they were talking about the stopping of the flights
[19:25:53] <SWPadnos> that would make sense
[19:26:02] <cradek> as in "we should keep this in mind for bird flu"
[19:26:07] <SWPadnos> there were interesting weather-related observations as well
[19:26:25] <cradek> brb
[19:26:36] <SWPadnos> it's interesting to note that jet trails are visible from something like 90% of the Earth's surface